Religion (was: god 0.1.0 released)

On 7/13/07, MenTaLguY [email protected] wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:32:46 +0900, Marc H. [email protected] wrote:

SPS: btw “daemons” is not the same as “demons” - not that either one
would be a good, meaningful name. :stuck_out_tongue:

Really? While “demons” would obviously be a poor name, the ancient
greek notion of daemons (eudaemons, particularly) seems like a pretty
decent analogy for such background processes.

I was under the impression that daemon was just an archaic spelling of
demon, honestly.
I guess it has several meanings and the greek notion is the closest to
the technical term, I suppose.

Aureliano C. wrote:

Or Largely Used Cyber Implementation For Executing Runnables Silently.
Doesn’t sound very biblical to me.

Ok, it would be a mouthfull too. Perhaps initialed ?..

I always understood that “god” means “god over daemons”

A recursive acronym is very old tradition in programming.

Why would you need the Largely Used part? If I know one thing about
advertising, you don’t have your popularity in the name of your product.
How would you like it if your favorite chewing gum became know as Orbit
9285638 people use this daily White? So , if I was them, I would cut it
down to Cifer. Why do you need the silenly part? Do Executed Runnables
normally make noise? I don’t think anyone wouldn’t like the acronym
C.I.F.E.R.

Mental G. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:27:09 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

As far as I can tell, these days a lot of culturally illiterate fantasy
authors (up to and including a lot of game writers) simply use “demon”
to mean a sort of monster, whether evil or ambivalent.

Good idea. Let’s go and sue Runescape, Dungeons and Dragons, World of
Warcraft, Diablo, and every other company that uses the word Demon!
Huzah!

While I have to admit that fantasy settings which strip-mine the
world’s mythologies and religions as a source of names for random things
is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, I can’t say I see a benefit to
lawsuits.

-mental

Benefit to lawsuits? MONEY! I hate Runescape. Let’s sue them. They lose
money, we gain money, all around good. If we are lucky, Jagex Inc goes
out of business. I inform everybody about some inexpensive new game they
can play, everyone goes to that game. The makers of the game (Me and my
coder friend Matt) get filthy rich because we listen to suggestions and
people tend to like that. We hire teams of coders and even more
suggestions are taken. And BINGO! We have the next WoW on
our hands. Even if it isn’t pirate themed. Then we can make another
game. Sky Pirate themed of course, entirely my idea. Just like the game
that I spoke of earlier. Which Matt is going to start working on as soon
as he learns C++. Can someone tell me if it’s easy to learn C++ if you
already know C?

On 7/13/07, Joe W. [email protected] wrote:

can play, everyone goes to that game. The makers of the game (Me and my
coder friend Matt) get filthy rich because we listen to suggestions and
people tend to like that. We hire teams of coders and even more
suggestions are taken. And BINGO! We have the next WoW on
our hands. Even if it isn’t pirate themed. Then we can make another
game. Sky Pirate themed of course, entirely my idea. Just like the game
that I spoke of earlier. Which Matt is going to start working on as soon
as he learns C++. Can someone tell me if it’s easy to learn C++ if you
already know C?

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:27:09 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

As far as I can tell, these days a lot of culturally illiterate fantasy
authors (up to and including a lot of game writers) simply use “demon”
to mean a sort of monster, whether evil or ambivalent.

Good idea. Let’s go and sue Runescape, Dungeons and Dragons, World of
Warcraft, Diablo, and every other company that uses the word Demon!
Huzah!

While I have to admit that fantasy settings which strip-mine the
world’s mythologies and religions as a source of names for random things
is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, I can’t say I see a benefit to
lawsuits.

-mental

Gregory B. wrote:

On 7/13/07, Joe W. [email protected] wrote:

can play, everyone goes to that game. The makers of the game (Me and my
coder friend Matt) get filthy rich because we listen to suggestions and
people tend to like that. We hire teams of coders and even more
suggestions are taken. And BINGO! We have the next WoW on
our hands. Even if it isn’t pirate themed. Then we can make another
game. Sky Pirate themed of course, entirely my idea. Just like the game
that I spoke of earlier. Which Matt is going to start working on as soon
as he learns C++. Can someone tell me if it’s easy to learn C++ if you
already know C?

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:15:21 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

omg u now lolcats rite lol
aysos 4rt gtg pos

From: “Joe W.” [email protected]

omg u now lolcats rite lol
aysos 4rt gtg pos

Umm… Was that supposed to be mocking or something? Because I didn’t
stand it. If I translated it, it would be "O my god you now laughing out
loud cats right laugh out loud aysos art got to go post.

http://lolcode.com/

:slight_smile:

On 7/13/07, Joe W. [email protected] wrote:

as he learns C++. Can someone tell me if it’s easy to learn C++ if you
already know C?

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

can has irony? kthxbye.

Mental G. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:15:21 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

omg u now lolcats rite lol
aysos 4rt gtg pos

Umm… Was that supposed to be mocking or something? Because I didn’t
stand it. If I translated it, it would be "O my god you now laughing out
loud cats right laugh out loud aysos art got to go post.

On 7/13/07, Gregory B. [email protected] wrote:
Whats ist Iron-Y?

BTW are we breaking all records of OT, craz-Y etc?
Greogor-Y what is this Y-Calculus about an-Y wa-Y?

Robert

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:05:27 +0900, “Gregory B.”
[email protected] wrote:

i’m in ur computer. lernin’ ur C++.

I can has video game?

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

can has irony? kthxbye.

In an attempt to wring some on-topic from what’s become a very strange
thread, I think this illustrates a principle which is important when
choosing a project name:

If you elect to allude to something obscure in your name, does the
name still work if people don’t get the reference? Are there other
references it could be mistaken for? Are people likely to be confused
or offended if they don’t get the reference?

-mental

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:43:43 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

omg u now lolcats rite lol
aysos 4rt gtg pos

Umm… Was that supposed to be mocking or something? Because I didn’t
stand it. If I translated it, it would be "O my god you now laughing out
loud cats right laugh out loud aysos art got to go post.

Heh, sorry. I couldn’t help volunteering an impression of an actual
teenage SMS.

It translates to:

Oh my God… you know about lolcats, right? laughs
Are you stupid or something? For real, though…

I have to go now; my parents are looking over my shoulder!

Not that I actually think you’re stupid for being unfamiliar with
lolcats,
which may actually indicate that you have a life. :slight_smile:

There’s a Wikipedia article if you’re interested, though:

Lolcat - Wikipedia

-mental

On 7/13/07, MenTaLguY [email protected] wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:05:27 +0900, “Gregory B.” [email protected] wrote:

In an attempt to wring some on-topic from what’s become a very strange
thread,
:)))
I think this illustrates a principle which is important when
choosing a project name:

If you elect to allude to something obscure in your name, does the
name still work if people don’t get the reference? Are there other
references it could be mistaken for? Are people likely to be confused
or offended if they don’t get the reference?

Well maybe a little pun is in order – if it works I am not sure.

“Better use talking names than calling names” – optionally one could
put a comma somewhere :wink:

Cheers
Robert

On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 02:02:13AM +0900, MenTaLguY wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:40:54 +0900, “Gregory B.” [email protected] wrote:

I guess it has several meanings and the greek notion is the closest to
the technical term, I suppose.

Pretty much. I wonder if most get the reference, though.

I’m fine with its use as the technical term, though I probably
would have chosen a different word if it were up to me to choose
from scratch.

Like what – servitors?

I like “daemons”.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 02:32:31AM +0900, Joe W. wrote:

Why would you need the Largely Used part? If I know one thing about
advertising, you don’t have your popularity in the name of your product.
How would you like it if your favorite chewing gum became know as Orbit
9285638 people use this daily White? So , if I was them, I would cut it
down to Cifer. Why do you need the silenly part? Do Executed Runnables
normally make noise? I don’t think anyone wouldn’t like the acronym
C.I.F.E.R.

I’m pretty sure the LUCIFER acronym was proposed indirectly and
sarcastically as a joke, and no actual intent of suggesting a name for
the thing should have been inferred.

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:54:12 +0900, Chad P. [email protected]
wrote:

Like what – servitors?

I like “daemons”.

Not sure, honestly. At this point I’ve been used to calling them
“daemons” for a decade or two; it’s hard for me to weigh alternatives
objectively.

“services” the first thing that comes to mind, actually.

-mental

On 7/13/07, MenTaLguY [email protected] wrote:

In an attempt to wring some on-topic from what’s become a very strange
thread, I think this illustrates a principle which is important when
choosing a project name:

If you elect to allude to something obscure in your name, does the
name still work if people don’t get the reference? Are there other
references it could be mistaken for? Are people likely to be confused
or offended if they don’t get the reference?

My question is, does it really matter?

If we can’t have fun with the names of our free software projects in a
way that appeals to our own sense of humor, I think we’re really
missing a big part of the hacker culture. I for one am really
surprised that people aren’t applauding the hack value of coming up
with a name that has a valid analogy, is on the surface controversial,
and has the ability to evoke some sort of humor in those that get the
joke.

So what’s to lose? Potential users? Reputation? Maybe. But if you
don’t care about that, there’s nothing wrong with picking a name that
entertains you. If people get offended, so be it. No one says they
need to use or endorse your project.

But Mental G., what did you mean with your first statment? Can I has
video game? or sometihng like that. And im in your comp. lernin your
c++.

I dont have any C++ to learn, and how are you in my comp? its like an
inch and a third thick.

Mental G. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:43:43 +0900, Joe W.
[email protected] wrote:

Could you speak in proper English? I can’t understand you if you talk
like a drunk teenage girl who spends too much time IMing.

omg u now lolcats rite lol
aysos 4rt gtg pos

Umm… Was that supposed to be mocking or something? Because I didn’t
stand it. If I translated it, it would be "O my god you now laughing out
loud cats right laugh out loud aysos art got to go post.

Heh, sorry. I couldn’t help volunteering an impression of an actual
teenage SMS.

It translates to:

Oh my God… you know about lolcats, right? laughs
Are you stupid or something? For real, though…

I have to go now; my parents are looking over my shoulder!

Not that I actually think you’re stupid for being unfamiliar with
lolcats,
which may actually indicate that you have a life. :slight_smile:

There’s a Wikipedia article if you’re interested, though:

Lolcat - Wikipedia

-mental

Yes, as a mater of fact I do have a life. And I have never seen most of
the terms used. And I use Kno for Know. I use the word Now for the word
Now. I dont know where you got aysos from. I have never heard that, and
it doesn’t seem general enough to be used often, or widely known. or
4rt. I know what lol means, but I dont know how you came up with this
stuff. I use the terms Gunna, I usually leave off the G in progressive
verbs, and I rarely use 133t speak, or symbols such as :P, or <(-.-<).
/_/
( -0- )
(-----)
W W

Dont ask me what it is, because i just made it up.