New wiki

If you read the earlier messages you will see that I am trying to
accommodate the requests of a multitude of others who spoke up and made
requests. Those would include the specific PREFIX being used (a request
if Merlin) and multiple requests that entries be cross posted here to
the list. Then there would be my request to continue this discussion off
the list so as not to pollute the inboxes of those who are uninterested.

If the forum entries are “breaking” your MUA’s threading system I
apologize. I can work on that but make no guarantees. I have asked for
help with list integration and Merlin has been gracious enough to
indicate that he might be willing to help.

To All:

I deeply regret the dissension that this has caused. A better place to
hash this out constructively would be in the “Site Suggestions” forum at
http://forum.nginx.org. I will no longer respond to questions about
this subject on this list. That section of the forum is not posted here.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 18:56 +0530, Arvind Jayaprakash wrote:

On Mar 12, Cliff W. wrote:

I’ve gone ahead and redirected http://wiki.codemongers.com to
http://www.nginx-community.org.

The old wiki is still available at http://oldwiki.nginx-community.org in
case there’s anything there we still need to migrate.

If anyone has any issues, please contact me.

Have we lost the old accounts/changelogs?

I’m afraid so.

Cliff

Great effort Cliff and really well documented. i loved first page of the
wiki.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Cliff W. [email protected] wrote:


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On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Cliff W. wrote:

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 23:09 +0300, Igor S. wrote:

Yes, this is how I usually do when I need to post in web form: I prepare
a text in vim and then paste it in web form. Sometimes there are formating
issues. And I hate this. With mutt/vim I have handly quoting and edit
environment.

Igor, this is for you:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125

“It’s All Text” is fine, but you don’t need a plugin for that, if you
are using Vimperator (another Firefox plugin) already, which makes FF
behave like Vim.
It includes a “edit text input/textarea in an external editor” (Ctrl-I).

The 2.0 betas are stable (for me) already and I recommend using those
right away, if you want to try it.

Vimperator is really awesome, if you’re a vimmer.

Cheers,
Daniel

Hello!

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:53:07PM -0700, Dan Dascalescu wrote:

http://n2.nabble.com/nginx-f2469901.html

There is no “prev” or “Next”! How do you get to older stuff in nabble?

That’s because Nabble started archiving the mailing list last week.

This is a LARGE problem with mailing lists that I don’t see anyone
mentioning: the MUAs don’t get old messages.

For nginx@ there are gmane with archive starting from 0.1.18
announce at 2005-02-09 (there were no traffic on list expect new
version announces at that time). And there is nothing to stop
you from downloading this archive in mbox format.

Maxim D.

http://n2.nabble.com/nginx-f2469901.html

There is no “prev” or “Next”! How do you get to older stuff in nabble?

That’s because Nabble started archiving the mailing list last week.

This is a LARGE problem with mailing lists that I don’t see anyone
mentioning: the MUAs don’t get old messages.

If you’re on a mailing list, you only have the messages from the date
you subscribed. If you want to search for something, you need to go to
the mailing list archive. That archive is very much equivalent to a
forum, so why not just use a forum in the first place?

Dan

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Cliff W. [email protected] wrote:

I’m afraid so.

Cliff

Cliff - the new design is pretty cool, but I do have one complaint.

On pages like this:
http://wiki.nginx.org/NginxModules

Is there any way to just have it be a list, and not boxes? In certain
browser resolutions it’s all messed up and it’s much harder to follow
anyway. That’s a pretty unique Mediawiki skin… good job in creating
it. Mediawiki can be a real PITA.

I’d say the same for any of the pages using the box format… it’s
neat but it’s not the most user-friendly IMHO.

On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 10:26 -0700, mike wrote:

Cliff - the new design is pretty cool, but I do have one complaint.

On pages like this:
nginx documentation

Is there any way to just have it be a list, and not boxes? In certain
browser resolutions it’s all messed up and it’s much harder to follow
anyway.

Yeah, I’ve been debating that layout. The old layout (a list) didn’t
work so well because there’s the automatically generated list on the
right, so it became redundant.

I’ll work on a better layout.

Just FYI, this here is a work in progress:

http://wiki.nginx.org/NginxModulesByExample

This isn’t a replacement for a regular index, but I think it will prove
useful for people looking not only for module documentation, but a more
visual/contextual index layout.

That’s a pretty unique Mediawiki skin… good job in creating
it. Mediawiki can be a real PITA.

Thanks! It wasn’t nearly as bad as I feared (once I’d gutted the
default skin). I really wanted to avoid the “we tossed up a MediaWiki
site in a hurry” look.

I’d say the same for any of the pages using the box format… it’s
neat but it’s not the most user-friendly IMHO.

I’ll work on this. I tend to agree with you.

Cliff

You can turn off the table of contents index for the page too.
Possibly even page level using proprietary mediawiki tags.

But yeah it does become a bit redundant with that many items on the
page having their own headers.

Mike,

There is a listing (it’s the page contents) which is floated to the
top-right of the page. If you would like to see a more traditional
mediawiki page, create yourself an account and visit
http://wiki.nginx.org/Special:Preferences . From there you can change
your
skin to something more to your liking. Alternatively, if you wish to
just
bookmark a link to something reminiscent of the old theme or maybe the
mediawiki default try this:
http://wiki.nginx.org/index.php?title=NginxModules&useskin=nginx or
http://wiki.nginx.org/index.php?title=NginxModules&useskin=monobook .

Cliff,

I love the new skin! I agree with Mike though - Mediawiki is a PITA!

Thanks,
Merlin

Dan Dascalescu wrote:

http://n2.nabble.com/nginx-f2469901.html

There is no “prev” or “Next”! How do you get to older stuff in nabble?

That’s because Nabble started archiving the mailing list last week.

Thanks. I hadn’t thought of that.

This is a LARGE problem with mailing lists that I don’t see anyone
mentioning: the MUAs don’t get old messages.

If you’re on a mailing list, you only have the messages from the date
you subscribed. If you want to search for something, you need to go to
the mailing list archive. That archive is very much equivalent to a
forum, so why not just use a forum in the first place?

Its easier to drop out of a forum but the list messages just keep
coming, so I suspect that community growth is easier and more stable on
a list.

Searching old messages in an archive is slow and hits the server hard.
Lets leave that for those who need it.

A forum is on-line only and therefore unattractive for people paying
metered connection charges.

I want both. Emailed messages and a browsable archive.

Ian