Since RadRails 0.6 is out (see http://www.radrails.org/ ), I have made a "celebratory illustrated tutorial" on how to use the Eclipse update function to do the upgrade from within Eclipse (I found the process a tad confusing): http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/publish... saludos, Victor Kane awebfactory.com.ar
on 2006-03-16 09:22
on 2006-03-17 18:33
Hi Victor, I've been using the standalong RadRails. Any particular advantage in using Eclipse and adding the components? (I don't do Java). It seems like a lot of trouble installing into Eclipse vs. just unzipping. Perhaps you could add a section on this? thanks, -bakki
on 2006-03-17 18:44
Bakki, I've been using Eclipse with RadRails plugin. The only reason I would ever suggest doing so is if you plan on developing in java, which I still play in from time to time, or you want to add on other plugins that are available on the Eclipse platform. Otherwise, if you are strictly using it to develop in Ruby/Rails I would suggest RadRails standalone since it is much trimmer. Dave -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Andrew Thompson http://dathompson.blogspot.com
on 2006-03-17 19:54
David, THanks for your input. I think I'll just stick with Rad Rails standalone for now. -bakki
on 2006-03-17 22:54
Doesn't RadRails use eclipse anyway? I wasn't aware there was a version that wasn't built on eclipse (and thus Java).
on 2006-03-17 23:15
There's a RadRails eclipse plugin and a standalone version of RadRails that is built on top of a very stripped-down eclipse core (but does not require that you install eclipse separately). Yes, it's all written in Java. http://www.radrails.org/ b
on 2006-03-17 23:25
Kenneth, radrails uses eclipse in both cases, but the standlalone build is just a stripped done eclipse (RCP: Rich Client Platform = thin eclipse without Java SDK), while the plugin is a regular eclipse plugin. What I am wondering is whether the Standalone build also allows to update as easily as the plugin version, or whether one needs to download a whole new installer for upgrading to a new radrails release.
on 2006-03-17 23:43
It doesn't use an installer; it's just zipped up. But no, it doesn't appear that the standalone version has eclipse's update mechanism. Still, you should be able to just unzip it over your old radrails. Back up your workspace to be safe though. I actually switched to using the plugin version mostly because the standalone version doesn't have the eclipse search functions(!!). But I'm also a java dev so.... Oh, and one annoying glitch with the 0.6 update (to the plugin version): it deleted all my server entries on the server tab! I guess I'll have to move my projects aside, create them again to get the server config, and then copy the actual files back into the project. Sigh. b
on 2006-03-18 01:01
Ben, thanks for clarification. It also cleared my server entries on the server tab, but that is very, very simple and to recreate them. I use the plugin version because I need it for Java. But based on tha fact that you don't get search und release update functionality with the standalone version, I would recommend to anyone to use the plugin based version.
on 2006-03-18 18:58
Victor, thank you for the work! As a newbie, I got 2 dumb questions for all you experts... 1. What's the relationship between RadRails and RDT? (If any, how are their version numbers aligned? If none, a description of their differences is posted somewhere?) 2. Can RadRails 0.6 resume breakpoints set in a Rails server? This feature doesn't work for me using RDT 0.7.0 and Eclipse 3.1.2 on Fedora Core 4/5-test3. DD
on 2006-03-18 19:16
I just want to say thanks to the developers for their hard work. 0.6 does indeed fix many of the annoying syntax highlighting and code completion bugs. Looking forward to the 1.0 release. Stick with it, guys!
on 2006-03-18 20:05
Doug, As far as I know, RadRails primarily uses RDT for its Ruby Editor and its Testing Framework. RadRails serves to bring the user interface into the picture (plus a great deal of back end tie-ins), which includes menu options, wizards, perspectives, etc. I'll pass on the breakpoint question and leave it up to some other hopeful developer. ;) Dave -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Andrew Thompson http://dathompson.blogspot.com
on 2006-03-22 02:56
Thank you, David, for the explanation! As for breakpoints, it seems that RDT 0.7 is broken for Ruby 1.8.4. Does anyone know what the following error messages mean? root@localhost:~# eclipse Invalid Menu Extension (Path is invalid): org.radrails.rails.ui.test.Default Invalid Menu Extension (Path is invalid): org.radrails.rails.ui.test.Unit Invalid Menu Extension (Path is invalid): org.radrails.rails.ui.test.Functional I got them after installing RadRails 0.61 in Fedora Core 5 Final's eclipse (3.1.2, java version 1.4.2). 0.6 and 0.61 do the same on FC5 Test3. What functionalities am I missing? Hope not testing... A fix or workaround? TIA!
on 2006-03-22 07:07
My Eclipse cannot see 0.6 while updating via http://radrails.sourceforge.net/update Am I the only one?
on 2006-03-22 08:33
Did you "search for new features" instead of "search for updates" in eclipse? That still gets me confused... don't know why some updates are new features. Victor's got a great tutorial on it here: http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/publish... b
on 2006-03-22 12:12
RadRails is a very good IDE but there is something annoying (that is certainly related with Eclipse, not RadRails) : under Linux (KDE), the navigator and outline panes use very BIG FONTS - I found nowhere in Preferences/General/Appearance a choice to change them and thus navigating throught the project is annoying as I need to scroll down and up very very often... Anybody found a solution for that ? Thanks
on 2006-03-22 16:52
Oh, feels like the new version is always a "new feature", not an update :(
on 2006-03-22 16:59
Has anybody experimented with compiling RadRails with GCJ? http://gcc.gnu.org/java/ It would make it screaming fast...
on 2006-03-22 17:18
My co-worker tried using GCJ-compiled Eclipse for Java programming and he said, ironically, it was nearly un-usable... dog slow! Now, I don't know how much he looked into changing settings or fixing his problem somehow, but.... That was the pre-compiled version that came with Ubuntu, I believe. b
on 2006-03-24 02:34
Since the upgrade to 0.6.1 on windows-standalone radrails has completely crapped out on me. I can only click on things for maybe a minute and then the cursor locks, the same thing happens with the keyboard while typing. i can move the cursor around for a while but then out of nowhere i can't click on anything or type. if i switch to another application (alt-tab) and then switch back to radrails i can regain use of the mouse and keyboard for a little while until it all happens again. this update has rendered radrails unusable and i don't have a copy of an older version which at least worked. has anyone had similar problems? this isn't any issue with my laptop since all other programs work fine.