Why RoR has such poor IDE posibility?

I have been struggling learning RoR ,one of the problems I have faced is
the ide, I just can not find a good and ide, yes RubyMine is great but
as I am still learning it I don’t want to invest on ide yet,is there a
free ide ?.
I am bough linux and windows user.
All suggestions are welcomed.

since you are new, you are confusing what ruby is and what rails is, you
may
need an ide for ruby, but not for rails and since rails is ruby is
“killer
app”, almost no one uses an IDE and since the demand is low so is the
offer.
The thing is rails( which is a web application development framework,
while
ruby is a programming language) comes with everything you need
independent
of any ide, so you dont need any IDE, rials kind of is the IDE. Rails
can do
everything with its commands/scripts, and you dont need and ide for
that,
just the console/shell, also an ide will give you a file browser but
rails
already has everything organize , the only reason for using an ide is
when
you want code completion, but since ruby is dynamic ( you can modify
classes
during run time) is very hard to implement code completion effectively,
and
on top of that, the structure of rails is so clean, you wont really need
any
code completion since you will have instant feedback since the code does
not
need to “compile”. Use a simple text editor that, has a file browser,
like
textmate, ultra edit or gedit (with plugin), use the console for
command
and code generators, and refresh your browser for instant feedback.
Good
luck.

Thanks Radhames Brito
This really makes a sense I have been actually be confused about the
hole rails think.
Any plugins suggestions for “ultra edit or gedit”

the main reason is with ruby and ruby on rails, we don’t need an ide
to start and complete our applications. the second reason is what we
need is simply auto complete, auto indentation, file formatting, being
able to trace methods, etc and one can all of these by plugins for
vim, emacs, gedit, etc.

mengu you are saying what I have been looking for, the auto completion
in the edi,well netbeans has stoped supporting RoR in their future
edi.Aptana 3 I could not make the auto completion work properly.
So I am looking at Geany, Jedit, Gedit, but one has to know witch plugin
to use and how to install them.
I am an experienced java and .Net developer but I am a bit surprised by
the struggled I am having to learn RoR.
How do I import predefined moduiles ?
for example
in java
File f= new File();
f. and control space will give me the methods on file object I haven’t
been able to do this is Geany, Gdit, or aptana.

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On Apr 10, 2011, at 5:22 AM, hoboy Hoboy [email protected] wrote:

I have been struggling learning RoR ,one of the problems I have faced is
the ide, I just can not find a good and ide, yes RubyMine is great but
as I am still learning it I don’t want to invest on ide yet,is there a
free ide ?.

Textmate
Aptana Studio 3
Netbeans 6 or below

All free. All good IDEs. They have support for both straight Ruby
programs and RoR applications.

B.

installing gedit plugins are very trivial. for a list of gedit
plugins, please visit http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM, hoboy Hoboy [email protected]
wrote:

mengu you are saying what I have been looking for, the auto completion
in the edi,well netbeans has stoped supporting RoR in their future
edi.Aptana 3 I could not make the auto completion work properly.
So I am looking at Geany, Jedit, Gedit, but one has to know witch plugin
to use and how to install them.
I am an experienced java and .Net developer but I am a bit surprised by
the struggled I am having to learn RoR.

You can also easily learn Ruby and Rails without anything but a stock
text
editor, no autocomplete, etc. I came from VisualStudio spoonfeeding
world
and am over two years into Rails and no desire for anything but a
slightly
tweaked vim. It is true that you have to rely more on the documentation
and
sometimes think more but IMO it actually is a boon to do this in terms
of
learning things well.

installing gedit plugins are very trivial. for a list of gedit
plugins, please visithttp://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins.

+1.

Check https://github.com/gmate/gmate for a nice set of plugins and
configurations.

Nahuel.

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