[Very OT] MacBook defects: should I buy a MacBook?

Hello,
First and foremost sorry for off topic message, but I thought maybe
you smart guys can help me to decide about purchasing a MacBook or
not.

I was going to buy a MacBook but I found a story on digg.com about
case discoloring and after googling the subject I found MacBook
defects:

http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook_Pro

I’m totally confused, should I buy it? what about iMac?
and the last question: you guys, who migrated from win/nix to mac,
does it worth the money? (anything other than TextMate?)

Thank you all in advance,

  • Dunnil

hi, i am totally liking my macbook pro. its pricey, but since im into
software programming, i might as well get really used to working in Unix
environment. my mbp is real quick. right now im capturing video from my
dv camcorder into imovie, using RoR in textmate, having the webserver up
and running, mysql software gui running, and surfing the web. no slow
down what so ever… i do how ever have a warm keyboard that keeps my
hands warm lol…

I went with a Powerbook instead of a MacBook because of the stories of
whining, heat (the MB at the store was really hot to the touch), and
whatever else I can’t remember. Plus they cost more, a lot of software
isn’t universal, etc.

I’ve been quite happy switching from Windows to Mac. Shit Just Works and
the OS gets in your way far less. And having *nix under the hood is very
nice. I’ve tried out TextMate, but haven’t decided on buying it yet - no
sftp support is the stumbling point for me. Still, I fire up my Windows
machine once in a while to do other stuff (like play the occasional
game).

Oh yeah, does anybody know of a decent way to transfer images from a
compactflash card inserted in a Mac’s PC slot? I couldn’t find anything
that didn’t suck ass - Apple’s program always crashed. I could just copy
the images manually, but screw that. I ended up hooking up my camera via
USB and transferring that way - took forever. On Windows I used Cam4You
(http://alkenius.no-ip.org/Cam4you/) which did a great job.

Joe

Hi Dunnil,
Wow! Thanks for the link in regard to the MacBook.
Good evening,
Pat

I just traded in my Dell Inspiron 8600 and a Pbook 12" for a new MacBook
Pro
15" - it’s the shit…

Was considering the Black MB, but the glossy screen and lack of size
difference between the 15" pushed me in the pro direction. I couldn’t be
happier. If you’re good with a screwdriver and at all patient, buy the
low-end model and upgrade the ram to 2gb yourself and the drive to a
7200rpm. I just did it.

Running Parallels is dope too. I can still use all my XP apps, and test
sites in IE. Best of both worlds. Install VirtueDesktop and you will
never
look back. You should see how people freak out when I can be in XP or OS
X
with a keystroke.

Hi Joe, did you file this bug with Apple or has it been filed by someone
else.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

In short, this will make the platform better if people give feedback to
Apple
and I would recommend doing the same for both Ruby and Rails.

Peace,

-Conrad

On Wednesday, June 14, 2006, at 6:48 PM, subimage interactive wrote:

Running Parallels is dope too. I can still use all my XP apps, and test

I went with a Powerbook instead of a MacBook because of the stories of
yet - no
camera via
http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails

They must have fixed most of the problems mentioned on that website,
because the only issue I have is that it runs a bit hot when I push it.
Nothing I can’t manage, tho.

_Kevin

Yeah, my Powerbook gets pretty damn hot too, like when watching videos
or having several browser tabs open of sites that have a bunch of Flash
ad crap.

Conrad - haven’t checked. It was iPhoto '04. Could be it’s fixed in
iPhoto '06.

Also, Expose in Mac OS X is so nice. Quicksilver is quite handy too.
Such simple stuff that makes the little things so much easier.

Joe

I’ve tried out TextMate, but haven’t decided on buying it yet - no
sftp support is the stumbling point for me.

Joe,

One way around this, if you don’t mind a two app solution is to use
Cyberduck for SFTP and set your External Editor in Cyberduck prefs to
Textmate. I use this occasionally, not a lot, and it works quite
nicely. Cyberduck is free.

-TJ

On Jun 15, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Calle D. wrote:

“Human” == Human D. [email protected] writes:

I was going to buy a MacBook but I found a story on digg.com about
case discoloring and after googling the subject I found MacBook
defects:

I have a MacBook and absolutely love it. I have experienced no ill
effects, it’s the best laptop I have every owned, wouldn’t trade it
for a thing, well, except maybe an ultralight airplane but they are
quite a bit more expensive :slight_smile:

Jeremy

“Human” == Human D. [email protected] writes:

I was going to buy a MacBook but I found a story on digg.com about
case discoloring and after googling the subject I found MacBook
defects:

http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook_Pro

I’m totally confused, should I buy it? what about iMac?

The thing to keep in mind when looking at that kind of site is that
they’re collections of as many bad experiences as possible. I had a
quick look at the site linked to above, and I could find no
information at all about how frequent the problems they describe are.
Considering that Apple sells tens of thousands of the things,
something can be pretty pretty darn unlikely and still gather enough
pissed-off people to make a website.

That said, there are some things with the MacBook Pro that have been
serious enough that Apple are trying to fix them, primarly the
overheating thing. It also makes sense to me that that is the model
with the most problems, since it was the first Intel-based model the
made. Just by going on the “Never use the initial release of
anything” theory, you probably don’t want the MacBook Pro.

	     Calle D. <[email protected]>
	 http://www.livejournal.com/users/cdybedahl/

“But that was in the gauzy realm of meat and oxygen, not this real
world
here on the screen.” – archbishopm, LiveJournal

Human D. wrote:

I was going to buy a MacBook but I found a story on digg.com about
case discoloring and after googling the subject I found MacBook
defects:

Strangely enough I placed an order for a MacBook prior to this story
coming out a couple of days ago. Once the story broke I really had to
sit down and think about it. Did I really want all these issues with
the 1st generation MacBooks? The “Mooooing”, “Whine”, “Discoloration”,
“Heat”, etc.? Perhaps I’d luck out and get a MacBook that had none of
the issues, or I could get a bad one. I ended up cancelling my order
yesterday with Apple. I’m going to wait a couple months and let them
rev the MacBooks a bit more before I sink some money into it. I
currently have two iMacs at home so I’m really in no rush at this time.
The iMacs both run great, no issues at all. Thats how I’ll want my
MacBook :slight_smile:

I have a MacBook and absolutely love it. I have experienced no ill
effects, it’s the best laptop I have every owned, wouldn’t trade it
for a thing, well, except maybe an ultralight airplane but they are
quite a bit more expensive :slight_smile:

Jeremy

Nope, you’ll get a used one for about the same price if you shop around
:stuck_out_tongue:

Blue skies,

Matt.

I’ve tried out TextMate, but haven’t decided on buying it yet - no
sftp support is the stumbling point for me.

Have you tried the FTP client Transmit? It has support for SFTP and
allows seemless in-line editing using TextMate.

Lindsay

On 6/15/06, Joe R. [email protected] wrote:

I’ve tried out TextMate, but haven’t decided on buying it yet - no
sftp support is the stumbling point for me. Still, I fire up my Windows
machine once in a while to do other stuff (like play the occasional
game).

Actually I’m glad they didn’t cram FTP/SFTP stuff in there. I just
feel that working with the files straight on the server is just
begging it to ruin your work. I did do that once but stopped after a
transfer failed and the file that I was working on got ruined.

Now everything is done using SVN. When I’m happy with my changes all I
need to do is type “svn up” inside the server and everything is happy
again.

Jón Borgþórsson wrote:

On 6/15/06, Joe R. [email protected] wrote:

I’ve tried out TextMate, but haven’t decided on buying it yet - no
sftp support is the stumbling point for me. Still, I fire up my Windows
machine once in a while to do other stuff (like play the occasional
game).

Actually I’m glad they didn’t cram FTP/SFTP stuff in there. I just
feel that working with the files straight on the server is just
begging it to ruin your work. I did do that once but stopped after a
transfer failed and the file that I was working on got ruined.

Now everything is done using SVN. When I’m happy with my changes all I
need to do is type “svn up” inside the server and everything is happy
again.

Many other editors “cram” s/ftp support in, with no ill effects. Editing
files on anything other than the server is incredibly tedious. And I’ve
NEVER ruined my work with failed transfers or anything else (perhaps you
need to use temp files).

Joe

If you guys used version control to push to your servers you’d forget all
about ftp…

There are still valid needs for ftp/sftp. Not for developing
necessarily, but for administration.

-TJ

If you guys used version control to push to your servers you’d forget
all
about ftp…

Wy not the just put /etc under subversion control?
:wink:

Yeah I get that FTP access can be useful in some cases. But I honestly
think that it is a minor issue for minoroty of people. I think I have
seen 3 people complaining about the lack of FTP.

On 6/15/06, TJ Stankus [email protected] wrote:

http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails

subimage interactive wrote:

If you guys used version control to push to your servers you’d forget
all
about ftp…

Far too tedious - maintain two setups, svn ci, switch to server, svn
update.

And, yes, I do use version control, on the server.

Joe