On 28/12/07 1:15 AM, “rubyonrails-talk group” [email protected]
seems to be the “EOF-like” variety, clearly an edge case for which
Valentina is specifically tuned.
Valentina is not tuned for any OR frameworks. Because we never have put
target. Actually we only now starting to check this OR frameworks world
(ROR, Hibernate). We never did this because Valentina is not RDBMS, it
Object-Relational. So we have consider any OR MAPs to be not needed. But
seems that if do OR framework around ORDBMS it will be more clean/thing/
simple than one around RDBMS.
Its nature of engine and format of db files really give many enough
for OR frameworks. For example, Valentina has RecID and OID fields in
which eat ZERO disk space, while still do job. Also Valentina is
format database (not traditional row-format). Also Valentina has on low
level the Link abstraction, which you will not find in any other RDBMS.
Besides, that developer have not implement yet any Valentina-specific
optimizations. For example we push him to start use Links, RecId, OID,
with bindings, and so on.
We are sure that when he optimize framework with this features, he will
easy 2-10 times speed up overall.
And I want underline again, Valentina was NOT born to be used with
OR-frameworks. 99% of Valentina developers use it just as ORDBMS without
frameworks. And from this 99% may be 50% use it as pure RDBMS not
Valentina developers usually are developers who are NOT satisfied with all
these mentioned dbs. They come to Valentina and tell us own stories. Some of
them are here:
That’s great but as long as Valentina is closed source I won’t even
try it, much less pay money to use it or advise my company to use it.
Welcome to the future of software.
Aha, so problem is in your “religion”. Then sorry, sorry…
Keep going with your gods :-)))
Nobody going touch personally you.
But note, that we was FORSED by many requests from Valentina users to
Valentina database for ROR. So please, Greg, try understand that EXCEPT
exists other developers, which may have other opinion and point of
about db tools and needs of their clients.
Welcome to multi-opinion multi-color multi-polar world
I don’t really know why you want to stay on this speed tangent when
the real issue here is spamming the list with an off-topic ad for a
closed source project.
Does this list have the name like “open-source-software-only” ? But no.
Its about ROR and ANYTHING related to ROR. Am I right Greg?
Can you assume that after this “ad for a closed source project”, some
members of this list will get FREE INFORMATION about tool which allow
better solve their tasks? Why you want prevent them from this??? You are
censor? You like mySQL? But we know a lots of developers, which hate it.
By the way, your first message into this thread was about price of
vs mySQL. I have forget to mention that we have for Linux web developers
totally FREE Valentina Community Server.
Get over yourself and your “fast” database and let people discover the project
through Google like normal. I’m sure there are billions of developers
searching for a “faster than anything out there” database right this minute.
exists law/rule about this way only? Point by finger please.
if you cannot point such law please do not teach others.
Hmm, You like and use Google???
Am I right they use own closed-source software for search engines?
So be consistent, and “trash” it from your tools. :-))
Also I believe you never use such things as Windows, MAC OS X,
Dreamweaver, Flash, Photoshop, inDesign, ShockWave, Director, Opera, and
thousands of other cool titles?
P.S. This is the last my answer to Greg’s “religion wars”.
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
[I feel the need: the need for speed]