Usage questions

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 10:20pm

Is anyone using:

Email notification
Jabber notification

I’m thinking of pulling them out and, if there’s a loud enough outcry,
adding them back with a rather better test suite than we have at the
moment.

BTW, if you want to follow what I’m doing,
svn://typosphere.org/typo/experimental/restful is where I’m working on
the edge rails compatible stuff. Word to the wise though: Don’t
install it from scratch, upgrade an existing database (or copy an
existing database and upgrade the copy).

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 10:54pm

I’d not know if people were commenting if I didn’t have an email
notification, so I’d appreciate it if some form of notification was
in there… hell it could be on the login to admin or some other way
but notifications are important.

-a

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 11:37pm

I use email notification new comment notification.
-Steve

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 11:37pm

On 10/26/06, Piers C. [email protected] wrote:

Is anyone using:

Email notification

Jabber notification

I’m thinking of pulling them out and, if there’s a loud enough outcry,
adding them back with a rather better test suite than we have at the
moment.

I use the email notification feature, this post on the hotfusion blog is
how
my set up works as well:
http://www.hotfusion.org/articles/2006/09/25/getting-email-notifications-to-work-in-typo

BTW, if you want to follow what I’m doing,
svn://typosphere.org/typo/experimental/restful is where I’m working on
the edge rails compatible stuff. Word to the wise though: Don’t
install it from scratch, upgrade an existing database (or copy an
existing database and upgrade the copy).

I’m just learning the typo system, I’ll try to get up to speed and
follow
your work in the experimental branch.

–

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 11:47pm

I like the email for commenting, but I don’t really need to know if I
write my own article.

jake

Piers_C · October 26, 2006, 11:47pm

I use email notification which is a really nice feature to know when
someone has posted a comment.
It should be nice to have the same for accepted trackbacks, and maybe
a digest of classified as spam items

Chhers
Frederic

Le 26 oct. 06 à 22:38, Andy C. a écrit :

working on
[email protected]
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 11:25am

On Friday 27 October 2006 05:48, Piers C. wrote:

Is anyone using:

Email notification

Jabber notification

I use Jabber notification but frankly the existing code is so broken
that I
completely gutted mine and replaced it with my own code.

TX

Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 2:01am

giovedì 26 ottobre 2006, alle 14:55, Steve Lenti scrive:

I use email notification new comment notification.

me too!

Off Topic: Steve, I sent you a couple of mail, with a little patch for
video_controller. Your antispam software is too agressive, maybe?

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Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 2:57pm

Trejkaz [email protected] writes:

On Friday 27 October 2006 05:48, Piers C. wrote:

Is anyone using:

Email notification

Jabber notification

I use Jabber notification but frankly the existing code is so broken that I
completely gutted mine and replaced it with my own code.

Heh. My feeling as well.

Right now, I’m investigating instance caching using cached_model
(nice, but somewhat limited, easy to use without memcached) or
acts_as_cached (also nice, somewhat more flexible, but has memcached
assumptions baked in fairly deep). From my initial investigations, it
looks like instance caching can save a fair amount of roundtripping to
the databas. For instance, using cached_model on just the Blog
object, with an in process memory cache that gets wiped every query,
eliminated 7 queries from the front page of a test blog with only 3
articles in it. Some judicious use of acts_as_as_cacheable for caching
associations (carefully) has the potential to save even more I
think…

Once I’ve done that, I shall mostly likely be removing Jabber
notifications completely and (probably) simplifying mail notifications
quite a bit too. Then I’ll see about readding Jabber stuff using
xmpp.rb or whatever it’s called and building a decent test suite for
notifications in the process.

It looks like Edge rails is pushing some lovely stuff down the pipe
by the way. I shall want to roll the edgy changes I’ve been making on
the experimental branch into the main line as soon as we’ve decided
what 4.1 is going to be and have released it. Probably Typo + instance
caching + slimmed down notifications at a minimum, but I’m open to
other suggestions.

Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 7:02pm

I use the email notifications to know when comments have been posted.
It helps to keep me from neglecting my blog and getting too busy with
other stuff.

On 10/27/06, Josh S. [email protected] wrote:

Typo-list mailing list
[email protected]
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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Cheers,

Kevin W.

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Magic.” - Arthur C. Clarke

Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 5:25pm

On Oct 26, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Piers C. wrote:

Is anyone using:

Email notification

Jabber notification

I’m thinking of pulling them out and, if there’s a loud enough outcry,
adding them back with a rather better test suite than we have at the
moment.

I rely on email notifications heavily. If you’re going to be showing
them some love, I’d like to see some flexibility in the notification
email content. Like, on a multi-user blog, include the name of the
author in the email. I’ve been meaning to work on that for a while -
we’ll see if I have the time to get to it this year, heh.

–
Josh S.
http://blog.hasmanythrough.com

Piers_C · October 27, 2006, 9:36pm

“Kevin W.” [email protected] writes:

I use the email notifications to know when comments have been posted.
It helps to keep me from neglecting my blog and getting too busy with
other stuff.

Is anyone using it to notify anyone who isn’t a typo administrator?
The support code appears to be there, but it hasn’t had a great deal
of TLC.

Piers_C · October 28, 2006, 6:31pm

Josh S. wrote:

[…] It would be
nice to have different levels of users: admin, can-post, can-
comment, gets-email-updates, etc.

Shades of WordPress! Oh My!
No doubt we have a lot we can learn from other Blog software.

When describing typo/rails to friends and showing them how easy it is -
just
a .rhtml file and a .rb file, I get told that typo is obviously not as
popular as WordPress because “its no fun for hackers”. I presume they
are
talking of the more obsessive kind who focus more on the process of
coding
(the twiddly bits) than on the deliverables.

There are HUNDREDS of plugins for WordPress. Well OK many of them
duplicate
functionality and duplicate functionality that Rails already has or that
are
of interest to very few.

But all-or-nothing access control is something that makes me stop and
wonder. Yes, a mode where Typo is a bit more like a CMS, where they are
authors (who generate content) and editors (who mark it ‘published’) and
an
administrator with God-like power… But there are also “policy”
questions. Who deals with ‘approving’ comments?

So I’d like to help Piers by proposing a more comprehensive response
that
just the single question he asked.

What added functionality do you NEED (not would ‘like’ but need) ?
What added functionality do you NOT need ?

Perhaps we need a Yes/no/don’t-care poll plugin!

 Yes    No       Functionality

 |X|    | |		EMail notification

 | |    | |     	Jabber notification

 | |    |x|    	Yes/no poll plugin

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Piers_C · October 29, 2006, 1:26am

Josh S. [email protected] writes:

of TLC.

Well, sort of. I’ve got everyone in my company in our Typo as a
user, so that they can get email updates of new posts. It would be
nice to have different levels of users: admin, can-post, can-
comment, gets-email-updates, etc.

That one’s post 4.1 I think. But it’s definitely on my todo list as
well.

Piers_C · October 29, 2006, 10:52am

On Friday 27 October 2006 21:53, Piers C. wrote:

Once I’ve done that, I shall mostly likely be removing Jabber
notifications completely and (probably) simplifying mail notifications
quite a bit too. Then I’ll see about readding Jabber stuff using
xmpp.rb or whatever it’s called and building a decent test suite for
notifications in the process.

Action Messenger

TX

Piers_C · October 28, 2006, 9:01am

On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Piers C. wrote:

“Kevin W.” [email protected] writes:

I use the email notifications to know when comments have been posted.
It helps to keep me from neglecting my blog and getting too busy with
other stuff.

Is anyone using it to notify anyone who isn’t a typo administrator?
The support code appears to be there, but it hasn’t had a great deal
of TLC.

Well, sort of. I’ve got everyone in my company in our Typo as a
user, so that they can get email updates of new posts. It would be
nice to have different levels of users: admin, can-post, can-
comment, gets-email-updates, etc.

–
Josh S.
http://blog.hasmanythrough.com