Strange posting about ebooks

On 1/30/06, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

I as well. Perhaps some of our friends at Yahoo can get his IP to track him?

What’s the point? While he has violated copyright he did not appear to
do it maliciously, and he is likely from a country where copyright is
not so sanctified as it is in the US and Europe. The cat is out of the
bag and it is extremely difficult to determine what “lost revenue” his
copyright violation may have caused for the copyright holders. Likely
not enough to warrant paying lawyers to track him down and try to sue.

It is likely that some of those who did not delete the emails, read
the books and liked them will choose to purchase the real thing,
either for the paper version or just to pay for the electronic version
out of fairness. Some may not.

I think part of living in the modern internet connected world is
realizing that any copyrighted content you produce will be “pirated”
by some people. I think that needs to be considered one of the costs
of doing business in that realm.

The music and movie companies’ campaigns to completely eliminate all
copyright violations are unrealistic and will result in more misery
for the average person than they will solve problems.

Ryan

Ryan L. wrote:

not enough to warrant paying lawyers to track him down and try to sue.

Exactly. I believe that most of the people on this list would buy those
items if they wanted them, or already have them.

I think the number of people who received this mail, and now think, “Oh,
good; I was going to pay or this, but now I won’t”, is quite small.


James B.

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On Monday 30 January 2006 11:28 pm, James Edward G. II wrote:

I got them too.

I as well. Perhaps some of our friends at Yahoo can get his IP to track
him?

Tsume

On Tuesday 31 January 2006 06:49 am, James B. wrote:

not enough to warrant paying lawyers to track him down and try to sue.

Exactly. I believe that most of the people on this list would buy those
items if they wanted them, or already have them.

I think the number of people who received this mail, and now think, “Oh,
good; I was going to pay or this, but now I won’t”, is quite small.

Okay, If I pirated loads of books, what is the point of reading a book
many
times unless its a reference book like the pickaxe? I don’t think some
books
could be considered for repetitive reading. So once the book is read, it
becomes useless to the holder.

I do understand people do pirate books to read them before buying them,
and
even programs out there which show parts of the book just aren’t enough
to
judge a book before buying, but I don’t think someone needs to spam
everyone
on the list with huge attachments. There should really be a “trial book”
from
the publishers if people wished to perform this type of engagement.

Tsume

On 1/30/06, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Okay, If I pirated loads of books, what is the point of reading a book many
times unless its a reference book like the pickaxe? I don’t think some books
could be considered for repetitive reading. So once the book is read, it
becomes useless to the holder.

Thank goodness for libraries, right!

I do understand people do pirate books to read them before buying them, and
even programs out there which show parts of the book just aren’t enough to
judge a book before buying, but I don’t think someone needs to spam everyone
on the list with huge attachments.

Don’t misunderstand me in regards to my copyright tirade before…what
the “book emailer” did was wrong. I’m just saying now that it is done
there isn’t much we can do about it.

There should really be a “trial book” from
the publishers if people wished to perform this type of engagement.

Again libraries can be of use here.

Ryan

Quoting Ryan L. [email protected]:

What’s the point?

Everything else aside, there is also the matter of having the
multi-megabyte email blob mass-mailed to everyone; it was a
particularly unkind thing for dialup users.

-mental

On Tuesday 31 January 2006 08:22 am, Ryan L. wrote:

There should really be a “trial book” from
the publishers if people wished to perform this type of engagement.

Again libraries can be of use here.

/me looks at Homer Libraries yearly spending allowance
Hmm, don’t think they even have any funds for buying computer
tech
books.
daihenda! :frowning:

Tsume

Quoting Gregory B. [email protected]:

But why? Why not just hit the list once?

I imagine the listserv would have refused the messages, as their
attachments were so large.

But, yeah. It’s an awful lot of work to go through. It can’t have
been a casual thing.

-mental

I got files 2, 3 and 4 on Jan 29th. I’ve got the paper copy of all books
except the Lua book, which does not fit in the otherwise respectable
collection.

Christer

On 1/30/06, James Edward G. II [email protected] wrote:

Yeah, newbies… Guy Decoux was one of the ones on my to list :slight_smile:

I got them too.

+1

Must have been a bot that pulled the list and then partitioned it off.

But why? Why not just hit the list once?

Was this person smart enough to not want to see this stuff archived?

I deleted 2->4 at arrival, did not get 1

Ryan L. wrote:

On 1/30/06, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

I as well. Perhaps some of our friends at Yahoo can get his IP to
track him?

What’s the point? While he has violated copyright he did not appear to
do it maliciously…

It was an overtly malicious act and I hope the owners of the properties
do
indeed go after them.

I really don’t think a witchunt is necessary. Some people are
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.

Ryan L. wrote:

What’s the point?

For the simple fact that he is a spammer perhaps? 18Mb of spam, you
could almost consider that to be a mailbomb, my average spam is around
15Kb per message not 5Mb.

Jon A. Lambert wrote:

I vote we sieze hold of him, press him flat between a printing press
and throw him in the river. If he floats he’s not a witch and he can
go free. If he sinks he’s a witch and subject up to $5000 in fines for
each incident of criminal copyright infringement.

Get with the times dude. He has to hold an overclocked AMD CPU in his
hand whilst
carrying a 19 inch monitor up five flights of stairs. If after 24 hours
there are no blisters from the CPU then he is innocent.

Doug B. wrote:

I really don’t think a witchunt is necessary. Some people are
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.

I vote we sieze hold of him, press him flat between a printing press and
throw him in the river. If he floats he’s not a witch and he can go
free.
If he sinks he’s a witch and subject up to $5000 in fines for each
incident
of criminal copyright infringement.

On 1/31/06, Doug B. [email protected] wrote:

I really don’t think a witchunt is necessary. Some people are
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.

Build a bridge out of 'im!!!

Matthew M. wrote:

On 1/31/06, Doug B. [email protected] wrote:

I really don’t think a witchunt is necessary. Some people are
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.

Build a bridge out of 'im!!!

Now, now. You’re starting to sound like a bunch of Python (Monty)
people . . .

(And there’s a duck typing reference in here somewhere waiting to be
made :slight_smile:

Quoting Mike F. [email protected]:

(And there’s a duck typing reference in here somewhere waiting to
be made :slight_smile:

Well, if he types like a duck…

-mental

2006/1/31, Mike F. [email protected]:

(And there’s a duck typing reference in here somewhere waiting to be
made :slight_smile:

if he looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck and
weighs
the same as a duck…
he’s a witch!!

lol, thanks for pointing that out :stuck_out_tongue:

In article [email protected],
[email protected] wrote:

Game Programming with Python Lua And Ruby.pdf

Unfathomable is right. I can’t begin to figure out what’s behind
this. Sheer malice springs to mind.

I got them too. It seems that whoever did this got their list of email
addresses from this list. Probably sent to anyone who had posted
recently.

Not sure why either.

Phil