SMS via Skype

Is it possible to send sms via skype account in rails?

It seems that skype charge much less than the other sms gateways.

Arthur

Not sure of the legal side, but you can SMS through AIM and gtalk for
free… here’s one article explaining it…

http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/trapani/2009/09/how-to-sms-for-free.html

-philip

Arthur C. wrote:

Is it possible to send sms via skype account in rails?

It seems that skype charge much less than the other sms gateways.

SMS gateways are not necessary for this. At least here in the US, every
cellular provider accepts SMS by e-mail. For example, you can send SMS
messages to an AT&T phone by e-mailing [phone number]@txt.att.net ; for
Verizon it’s [phone number]@vtext.com – you get the idea.

Arthur

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

Thanks for the info.

However, my target users are in Hong Kong.

Unfortunately, it seems that we don’t have free sms carriers which
allow me to use something like sms-fu.

On 10月2æ—¥, 下午11時35分, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l…@andreas-

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

Arthur C. wrote:

Thanks for the info.

However, my target users are in Hong Kong.

It is likely that Hong Kong cellular providers also provide e-mail
gateways. Â Why not check?

They do not in the UK (I believe), not free anyway.

Colin

Colin L. wrote:

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

Arthur C. wrote:

Thanks for the info.

However, my target users are in Hong Kong.

It is likely that Hong Kong cellular providers also provide e-mail
gateways. Â Why not check?

They do not in the UK (I believe), not free anyway.

About 5 minutes of research turned up http://bit.ly/H8lcV , which
includes a number of UK carriers. So I think you’re wrong. :slight_smile:

Arthur, the thread at http://bit.ly/RP26m seems to state that at least
some HK cellular carriers also do this.

Colin

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

from the pointers, it seems that there are HK carriers provide the
service.

but hold on, I have two basic questions upon this carriers methods:
(sorry for my ignorance)

  1. Do I have to know the phone number’s carriers? (e.g. +852
    [email protected], +852 456 @csl1010.com?)
  2. Is it all or nothing for the pricing? (all of them are either free
    or charged? or it is a case by case issue?)

Again, thanks for the replies! It helped me a lot.

Arthur

On 10月3æ—¥, 上午12時47分, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l…@andreas-

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

gateways. Â Why not check?

They do not in the UK (I believe), not free anyway.

About 5 minutes of research turned up http://bit.ly/H8lcV , which
includes a number of UK carriers. Â So I think you’re wrong. :slight_smile:

I’ll see your 5 minutes and raise it another 10.
That information includes paid for services. The Vodaphone service
for example is, I believe, not free and anyway is not available to new
customers as it is being phased out.
I have not fully explored all the suggestions for the uk but so far
none of them have panned out. The problem is that they want to make
money. Most unreasonable in my opinion.

Colin

Arthur C. wrote:

Thanks for the info.

However, my target users are in Hong Kong.

It is likely that Hong Kong cellular providers also provide e-mail
gateways. Why not check?

Unfortunately, it seems that we don’t have free sms carriers which
allow me to use something like sms-fu.

On 10月2æ—¥, 下午11時35分, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l…@andreas-

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

Arthur C. wrote:

from the pointers, it seems that there are HK carriers provide the
service.

but hold on, I have two basic questions upon this carriers methods:
(sorry for my ignorance)

I don’t know anything about the HK cellular market, but I can explain
how things work in the US.

  1. Do I have to know the phone number’s carriers? (e.g. +852
    [email protected], +852 456 @csl1010.com?)

In the US, yes. It is common for Web apps to ask which carrier someone
uses so they can send mail to the right domain.

  1. Is it all or nothing for the pricing? (all of them are either free
    or charged? or it is a case by case issue?)

All the US ones that I know of are free to send (of course, the
recipient gets billed normally for message received).

Again, thanks for the replies! It helped me a lot.

You’re welcome!

Arthur

On 10月3æ—¥, 上午12時47分, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l…@andreas-

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

I’ll see your 5 minutes and raise it another 10.
That information includes paid for services. Â The Vodaphone service
for example is, I believe, not free

How does that work? Â You send e-mail to the appropriate address at
vodafone.co.uk – then what? Does Vodafone reply with a request for your
credit card number?

No it is the recipient that pays, he/she has to register with
vodaphone to be able to receive sms from email and then he gets
charged for receipt.

Well, at least on the US model, they still do make money because the
recipient still pays for receipt.

Do you get charged for receiving SMS normally then? We only get
charged for sending unless subscribed to some chargeable system.

Colin

Colin L. wrote:

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

gateways. Â Why not check?

They do not in the UK (I believe), not free anyway.

About 5 minutes of research turned up http://bit.ly/H8lcV , which
includes a number of UK carriers. Â So I think you’re wrong. :slight_smile:

I’ll see your 5 minutes and raise it another 10.
That information includes paid for services. The Vodaphone service
for example is, I believe, not free

How does that work? You send e-mail to the appropriate address at
vodafone.co.uk – then what? Does Vodafone reply with a request for your
credit card number?

and anyway is not available to new
customers as it is being phased out.

That would suck. It would also surprise me.

I have not fully explored all the suggestions for the uk but so far
none of them have panned out. The problem is that they want to make
money. Most unreasonable in my opinion.

Well, at least on the US model, they still do make money because the
recipient still pays for receipt.

Colin

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

Colin L. wrote:

2009/10/2 Marnen Laibow-Koser [email protected]:

I’ll see your 5 minutes and raise it another 10.
That information includes paid for services. Â The Vodaphone service
for example is, I believe, not free

How does that work? Â You send e-mail to the appropriate address at
vodafone.co.uk – then what? Does Vodafone reply with a request for your
credit card number?

No it is the recipient that pays, he/she has to register with
vodaphone to be able to receive sms from email and then he gets
charged for receipt.

I see. That still means that it’s free for the sender, though.

We have it a little different here: we don’t have to register – the
feature is on by default.

Well, at least on the US model, they still do make money because the
recipient still pays for receipt.

Do you get charged for receiving SMS normally then? We only get
charged for sending unless subscribed to some chargeable system.

Yes, the US cellular industry generally works on a shared-cost model,
whereas I understand many European countries use caller pays all. So
we are charged for airtime on all calls, and for all SMS messages sent
or received. (However, calls and SMS messages within the same carrier’s
network are free of charge in most cases.)

The advantage of this, of course, is that it costs the same to place a
call to a US mobile phone as to a landline – the mobile recipient
basically pays the difference in cost. And unlike in some other
countries, you don’t automatically know whether a phone number is mobile
or not just by looking at the area code.

Colin

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

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