RoR failure

luislavena · March 9, 2011, 8:52am

I am a newbie at RoR and am disappointed by the fact that I couldn’t
install it in my Ubuntu 10.10 using an IDE. I tried NetBeans 6.9.1,
Eclipse 3.6.2, Aptana Studio and its plugin for Eclipse and RubyMine.
There was always a problem somewhere (rails, rubygems, rake, etc)
preventing me from working with my project. I currently have Netbeans
6.9.1 bundled with java jdk 1.6.0. I’ve already tried to install its
necessary plugins without success.
Can someone help me on how to build a solid RoR environment to use
with Netbeans 6.9.1?

Julio_F · March 9, 2011, 9:35am

On 8 March 2011 23:55, Julio F. [email protected]
wrote:

I am a newbie at RoR and am disappointed by the fact that … There was always a
problem somewhere (rails, rubygems, rake, etc)
preventing me from working with my project.

It’s always easier to solve problems when you take responsibility for
them, rather than blaming something else. For instance, instead of
saying “RoR Failure” [1] you could say “Julio’s knowledge
shortcomings”.
That way you could then address each shortcoming in turn, and resolve
them; maybe by posting up specific questions that people can answer:
ie. How about telling us some details of the “problems somewhere”, and
what exact problem you have right now.

Can someone help me on how to build a solid RoR environment to use
with Netbeans 6.9.1?

While faced with having to learn the whole gamut of framework,
language, plugins, idioms, etc, a easy way would be to start with a
pre-built package of the software, and focus on the language and
framework (I’d recommend a VM like Virtualrails, or a stack like
Bitnami). While getting to grips with this, you will also get exposure
to Gems, etc, without having to worry about whether you installed it
with the right permissions, or whatever, as someone else has already
gotten it working for you. When you’re comfortable with a few
components of the whole thing, then you might have a go a installing
from scratch.

BTW If you really want to “install using an IDE” rather than
“install Rails, then be able to use an IDE to develop” I think you
might be on a hiding to nothing, as none of the IDEs I’m aware of let
you manage your OS to such a degree (they include some Gem management
that I’ve seen, but it’s generally easier to do that yourself from the
command line).

[1] ROR is probably not suffering from any failure, as lots of
people are using the software combination you describe (myself
included). Occam’s Razor will help you deduce that it’s more likely
that the problem lies elsewhere…

Julio_F · March 9, 2011, 5:04pm

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Julio F. <
[email protected]> wrote:

I am a newbie at RoR and am disappointed by the fact that I couldn’t
install it in my Ubuntu 10.10 using an IDE. I tried NetBeans 6.9.1,
Eclipse 3.6.2, Aptana Studio and its plugin for Eclipse and RubyMine.

One advice is to simplify. One way to do this is work closer to the
‘road’
by using a simple text editor rather than ide. A stock rails install on
Ubuntu should not be too difficult, but if you hit problems specifically
address them on this list.

Julio_F · March 9, 2011, 7:18pm

This is the best guide to installing rails…

I installed Rails this way - a few minor hiccups with the Zlib
library, but otherwise installed perfectly. (Read the fix for this
submitted by stakeforce in the notes below…)

You need to set aside a few hours to install the system, because there
may be some incompatibilities to be fixed.

As regards IDE’s you may want to look at Rubymine, because Netbeans
will may have less support for Ruby in future.

Regards
Gary

On Mar 8, 3:55pm, Julio F. [email protected]

Julio_F · March 11, 2011, 8:35pm

Use rvm method as mentioned boefore, its the easiest way to get whole
“toolchain” up and running - forget about GUI installers included in
NetBeans and Aptana (especialy the second, barely anything working in
there
:P)

so:
-command line tools for managing gems
-IDE for actual coding (NetBeans is imho best free full featured ide
available for ror)

m.

2011/3/9 Julio F. [email protected]

Julio_F · March 9, 2011, 7:19pm

I have had no problems getting ROR to work on Unbuntu 10.10.

All it takes is some patience and a basic understanding of computers
and how they work.

The key thing to do here is read…read the error messages, read
other peoples examples etc. The problems you are experiencing are not
ROR, Ubuntu etc, they are due to Linux being different from what you
are used to. This is an adventure away from Windows, so you need a bit
more patience, but once you relaize the awesome raw power of this
platform you will be happy.

Windows is like a large bus full of happy smiley people on their way
to a convention.
Linux is like a dragster waiting at the start line for newbies. Raw
power waiting for you to take control

Regards
Gary

On Mar 8, 3:55pm, Julio F. [email protected]

Julio_F · March 23, 2011, 9:32am

But is NetBeans still usable? If I recall correctly, then RoR was
dropped
from Netbeans version 7. This announcement came about the same week I
realized that rails got to Version 3. Also I dropped NetBeans the same
day
as RoR-Support was dropped, so I cant verify my next saying, but I would
say
that NB is still fixed to RoR 2.3.x