Re: Perl 6 (Was: Boy I love the Ruby community)


#1

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.


#2

On 3/5/07, Avdi G. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.

Oh yes but there are many many others. Maybe too many :frowning:
It immediately struck me when I read the Apocalypsis that writting
Perl6 code will be fun…
… and reading Perl6 code written by others might just be hell.
Robert


#3

On Mar 5, 8:33 am, “Avdi G.” removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

To me the most interesting thing about Perl 6, should it ever be
released, is that (AFAIK) it has built-in support for swapping in new
parsers at runtime. This has intriguing implications for DSLs.

Good luck with maintenance.

Dan


#4

On 3/5/07, Daniel B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That’s crazy-talk!


#5

On 3/5/07, Avdi G. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That’s crazy-talk!


Avdi

Write everywhere, use once!

Now that is mean but I could not resist, sorry folks.


#6

On 3/6/07, Jason R. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever

martin


#7

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:56:10AM +0900, Martin DeMello wrote:

On 3/6/07, Jason R. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
Duke Nukem Forever

No, that’s Arc.


#8

Maybe when Perl 6 comes out, a yearly Perl Readability Contest will
start,
being of course the challenge to write the most readable Perl code!

Jason


#9

On 3/5/07, Chad P. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

No, that’s Arc.

You can’t rush Art.


#10

Chad P. wrote:

No, that’s Arc.

No, Arc’s niche is that it will be the only language that’s never
released. :slight_smile:


M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC§
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given
rabbits fire.


#11

Avdi G. wrote:

On 3/5/07, Chad P. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

No, that’s Arc.

You can’t rush Art.

Art? I thought his name was Paul.


M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC§
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given
rabbits fire.


#12

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:46:55AM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

Duke Nukem Forever

No, that’s Arc.

No, Arc’s niche is that it will be the only language that’s never
released. :slight_smile:

. . . and you think Duke Nukem Forever will be released? I’d think
the name – Forever – would be a clue.


#13

Hi,

In message “Re: Perl 6 (Was: Boy I love the Ruby community)”
on Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:05:30 +0900, Chad P. removed_email_address@domain.invalid
writes:

|> I hear its major ecological niche will be as a scripting language for
|> Duke Nukem Forever
|
|No, that’s Arc.

The new site for Y Combinatior is written in Arc. It’s working.

http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html

          matz.

#14

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:15:17AM +0900, Yukihiro M. wrote:

The new site for Y Combinatior is written in Arc. It’s working.

http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html

Excellent!

I joke about Arc being vaporware, but I’m pretty excited to see how it
turns out. Thanks for the information, Matz.


#15

On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi G. wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That’s crazy-talk!

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

Adrian


#16

On 3/7/07, Adrian H. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi G. wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That’s crazy-talk!

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

I mentioned my theory at the last local ruby brigade get together that
the great thing about programming languages is that there are so many
of then that anyone can find at least a half-dozen or so that he can
hate without trying too hard. :wink:

Personally I just wonder, like Rodney King, “Why can’t we just all get
along?”


Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/


#17

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 06:48:29PM +0900, Adrian H. wrote:

On 5 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Avdi G. wrote:

On 3/5/07, Daniel B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Good luck with maintenance.

Perl? Maintenance? That’s crazy-talk!

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

'sokay. Perl hackers tend to have a good sense of humor, too.

By the way, my sig below is chosen randomly. You can blame my Perl sig
here on serendipity – or on my computer.


#18

On Mar 7, 11:44 am, “Rick DeNatale” removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

And we were just saying how friendly this place was :slight_smile:

I mentioned my theory at the last local ruby brigade get together that
the great thing about programming languages is that there are so many
of then that anyone can find at least a half-dozen or so that he can
hate without trying too hard. :wink:

Personally I just wonder, like Rodney King, “Why can’t we just all get along?”

Short answer: Love and money.

Long answer: http://steve.yegge.googlepages.com/bambi-meets-godzilla

Regards,

Dan


#19

On 3/8/07, Giles B. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

My theory on this is that programmers don’t know where they end and
the language begins. If you’re doing something interesting and
challenging, the language won’t matter. (Of course, I’ve been working
exclusively with Ruby almost from the moment I discovered it, so I
could just be completely full of BS there.)
No I do not think so;), just that you are exaggerating on a valid
point.

Of course I would prefer to write lots of Java for an interesting
project working with good people and as a side remark our Java code
might become pretty pretty ;), rather to work on a dull project in
Ruby.
However when I can chose the language for the project than I will not
hesitate to take Ruby.
Both cases are extremes of course.

Cheers
Robert


#20

On 8 Mar 2007, at 08:55, Giles B. wrote:

My theory on this is that programmers don’t know where they end and
the language begins. If you’re doing something interesting and
challenging, the language won’t matter. (Of course, I’ve been working
exclusively with Ruby almost from the moment I discovered it, so I
could just be completely full of BS there.)
[snip]

I have an entire lightning rant on that topic. I have a strong
dislike for “Foo Developer” as a job title (Foo == Perl/Ruby/Lisp/
whatever). It’s limiting.

Adrian