RE: Mongrel Web Server 0.3.11 -- Edge Rails and Win32Complia

I don’t think there’s a way to do that other than using a proxy
(ISAPI_REWRITE) or just a server-side redirect. I’d love to be proven
wrong though.

I’d just like to chime in here by saying that Pound is ridiculously
If you’ve got an HTTP problem that can’t be solved with Pound and/or
Balance, you’re probably better off challenging your lead developer to
a knife fight.

You folks should take a look at the Pound reverse proxy:

It is designed to sit in front of a group of web servers and redirect
on cookies and paths and such. It could sit in front on IIS and several
mongrel servers and then route the requests as needed. It is actually
designed to work with IIS and can even handle the majority of the IIS
capabilities. It can also give you SSL which is nice for things like
Mongrel which don¹t to SSL (yet).

Zed A. Shaw

You haven’t seen my lead developer’s knife … It’s about 39 inches long
highly tempered steel. :o)

Of course he doesn’t design things so that you can be coded into a
corner either.

Hi Zed, any chance you could also include a light script to run
mongrel for rails without requiring rubygems, I used to be able to
just comment out the “require rubygems” line in the script but now it
no longer works, since you’ve introduced the Gem Plugin.
I know I could just RTFM and write a script myself, but I thought the
goal of Mongrel was to keep thing simple and fast.


I’ll look at it. Is there a particular thing that gems is doing which
it painful for you?

Zed A. Shaw

On 17/03/06, Zed S. [email protected] wrote:

I’ll look at it. Is there a particular thing that gems is doing which makes
it painful for you?

Not really, but Mongrel itself doesn’t really need gems, it’s only the
since you introduced the gem_plugin that you need it. It might be
handy to have a lite version without the plugin for people who dont
need plugins…hence dont need Rubygems

I’m just worried that if you start requiring more and more external
libraries in order to run Mongrel people would just start to think it
becomes a big gas factory with tons of add-ons that people barely use,
you may as well use Lighttpd + FastCGI…

I like Mongrel because it is simple and just run out of the shelf
without going through tons of docs to find out how to get it running
and it performs well.


I did some basic speed test on my rails application. I use Centrino
1.7GHz, WinXP.
For simple test I used Apache 'ab -n 100 -c 10 http://url… ’

Running Mongrel 0.3.11 I got:
development env. = 4.5 req./sec
production env. = 11.5 req./sec

Running Webrick I got:
development env. = 5.7 req./sec
production env. =25.9 req./sec

Does anyone know why the webrick is still faster? Mongrel runs without
problem but quite slow. Cant see any advantage to webrick.

David M.

PS: I run rails edge, Ruby 1.8.4

Hijacking threads arn’t you.

There was a post yesterday from Jason S. [email protected]:

The problem with Breezy is that although the Ruby version is 1.8.2 the
First remove any ruby stuff you have already installed on breezy, then
source and tracked in Debian’s package system.


Jonas Elfström schreef:

On 3/17/06, Zed S. [email protected] wrote:

I’ll look at it. Is there a particular thing that gems is doing which makes
it painful for you?

If I understand it correctly it requires Ruby 1.8.4 and Ubuntu Linux
comes with 1.8.3 and it’s a pain to upgrade.

PS. If anyone knows a nice and easy way to get Ruby 1.8.4 running on
Breezy, Ubuntu 5.10 please tell me. DS.


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