# Re: Learn to Program, by Chris Pine

Dave wrote:

JB wrote:

I too wish the author had put examples, say on some pages in the back or
something.

beer = 99
while beer >= 0
beer = beer - 1
end

OK, now we’ve got the basic structure of the program - one loop, beer starts
at 99, and decreases until it gets to 0. But there’s no output yet.

See how you go putting some flesh on that skeleton, JB - post back when
you’re done.

Hi Dave,

Okay, here’s what I got, and it works too, heh. The ‘if’ had to be in
there,
or else it kept ending with negative numbers (usually -2). This way is
as
good as Bill’s, but a lot shorter (not putting you down or anything
Bill!).

beer = 99
while beer >= 0
beer = beer - 1
if (beer - 1) >= 0
puts beer.to_s + ’ ’ ‘bottles of beer on the wall,’ +
beer.to_s + ’ bottles of beer,’ +
‘take one down, pass it around,’ +
(beer - 1).to_s + ’ ’ + ‘bottles of beer on the wall!’
end
end

Now, to clean it up even more…when it gets down to ‘1 bottle’, I
don’t
want it to say ‘1 bottles…’ (plural). How would I do this? I tried
with an
‘else’ in there, but for some reason I either made it an infinite loop
or it
kept getting the negative numbers all over again.
I tried with an ‘else (beer - 1) == 1’ (no quotes of course and that
didn’t
work either.

I do appreciate all the help you guys are giving, and yes, the
interactive
way will make me work a little harder too to get things right, plus I’m
the
kind who needs that kind of help or I fail miserably and give up, heh.

JB wrote:

``````   puts beer.to_s + ' ' 'bottles of beer on the wall,' +
beer.to_s + ' bottles of beer,' +
'take one down, pass it around,' +
(beer - 1).to_s + ' ' + 'bottles of beer on the wall!'
end
``````

end

Like I told Jan, put the “beer = beer - 1” at the end of the loop - then
you
won’t need that “if”. By the way, that “if” covers the whole loop.
Wouldn’t
it be simpler just to exit the loop instead of going through again but
doing
nothing? Here are the two alternatives I’m suggesting:

beer = 100 # have to add 1, because the first thing we’re doing is
subtracting 1!
while (beer - 1) >= 0 # a little better - no need for the inside “if”
beer = beer - 1
puts …
end

beer = 99
while beer >= 0
puts …
beer = beer - 1
end

Also, check out the typo here:

``````   puts beer.to_s + ' ' 'bottles of beer on the wall,' +
``````

’ ’ ‘bottles…’ is the same as ’ ’ + ‘bottles…’. You should change it
to
’ bottles…’.

Now, to clean it up even more…when it gets down to ‘1 bottle’, I don’t
want it to say ‘1 bottles…’ (plural). How would I do this? I tried with
an
‘else’ in there, but for some reason I either made it an infinite loop or
it
kept getting the negative numbers all over again.
I tried with an ‘else (beer - 1) == 1’ (no quotes of course and that
didn’t
work either.

Bill’s solution did this! You might want to read it and figure out how.
Still, I would prefer to do it a different way:

beer = 99
s = ‘’
while beer >= 0
if beer == 1
s = ‘’
else
s = ‘s’
end
puts … + ‘bottle’ + s + …
beer = beer - 1
end

I do appreciate all the help you guys are giving, and yes, the
interactive
way will make me work a little harder too to get things right, plus I’m
the
kind who needs that kind of help or I fail miserably and give up, heh.

We’ll keep you accountable. Don’t give up.

Cheers,
Dave

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