Todd B. wrote:
Oh, Joe, one more thing. If you really are a linebacker, stay off the
'roids.Todd
Lol. Good one. Who needs em? Not when your natrually kick ass like me.
Me, the other two linebackers, the FS, the equipment manager (he missed
try-outs), the D-Line, and fullback are the ones that the little
freshman tend to avoid. So do the sophmores actually.
Todd B. wrote:
On 7/15/07, Joe W. [email protected] wrote:
and ask them to tell me how to make a program, I expect them to try to
it occurred to me that people got paid for that stuff.start after hitting my head on a low ceiling. Of course at that time my
game was going to be called Ceiling Killers. Where you were a dude with
fireworks and shot roman candles at peoples ceilings. Course that didnt
seem like much fun after my head cleared. Thats what 3 hours knocked out
will do to ya.Wow. This is like watching a train wreck. Or, like, a really bad
soap opera. Joe, I feel bad for ya, man. I hope whatever money you
have can buy you respect, because your self-proclaimed genius
certainly doesn’t.I’ve seen some spoiled brats on forums before, but you definitely take
the ticket – to such an extreme, even, that I have a hard time
believing your real. I’m sure your family is forthrightly proud of
you. I’m not being sarcastic, either.Todd
Ahh. The family is proud of me. Let me run off the list again.
Linebacker, mathematician, and I’ll stop with those 2. Personally, those
are my 2 favorites. Because Linebacker=Popular. Math=Smart. And being a
Popular, and still smart, Linebacker equals one giant life long partay!
SO while yall 40 year olds are glad to see a bug worked out of your new
blogs and such, me and the rest of the teenage crowd are out partying,
and yall are in your houses and opening windows and yelling ‘You kids
stay off my lawn!’ while me and my crowd and yelling ‘Toga! Toga!’ (not
really, just what yall old guys are used to), and then at about 2 AM we
egg your house, spray paint your walls, and slash your tires and your
all like ‘ILL CALL THE COPS!’ and they never find out who did it and
then we all laugh. The younger crowd definately has it better.
And, since this coding stuff ain’t much fun anyway (cept logo, but thats
just for no particular reason. I just like seeing it do stuff.), I’ll
probably be at the gym for an extra 2 or 3 hours a day. So, as you see,
no need for drugs. Performance-enhancing drugs anyway.
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:
Clarify: I have a combat system planned out. I don’t have a combat
engine. I planned on using about the same system that WoW does, only
slightly modifed to better fit the game.
You know, it’s funny you should say that, because when I was about your
age,
I wrote a game in which I dutifully emulated the very idiosyncratic
inventory
system of Omega very closely. In retrospect, that was not a very
original
choice.
Clarify: I don’t care about
spelling when I’m on forums or an online game, etc. I do use proper
spelling in other things. Like resumes, E-Mails, important documents,
etc. I usually use spellcheck on those kinds of things.
And that’s gonna bite you, hard, in programming.
It’s really tempting to rely on “spellcheck” to solve everything.
However, it cant salve every problem ewe might encounter.
Problem with
Ruby Forums is, they have such a low-grade forum that it has no
spellcheck, no bold, italic, or underline text, no changing fonts, no
changing color or size, no sigs, no avatars, no sections for specific
things.
Well, given that many of us are reading this in plain text, not on any
“forums”, but on a mailing list, I guess I see that as a feature.
Why not use your own spell checking? Or, for that matter, just learn
your native language to some kind of basic competence?
If you can’t write competently without a special program to help you,
you’re screwed. Sooner or later, someone’s going to have you in for an
interview, and have you write some text… Without a spellchecker.
Congratulations, unless you’ve got an actual clinical diagnosis of
dyslexia,
you just didn’t get the job. I haven’t got the time to pick up after
people.
Anyway, I have what I want planned. I don’t have the means to
create it by myself currently. Maybe, probably awhile from now, I will
have either someone to do it for me, or a better Programming Language to
write it in. Obviously Im not going to write it in Ruby.
Well, it wouldn’t be my first choice for a whole game engine, although
there’s certainly some aspects of a game it’d be fine for. (I’m
actually
toying with the idea of resurrecting my ancient hopes of building a good
roguelike game.) On the other hand, if you really want to make a full
game,
you’re eventually going to need to learn all these tedious things, and
Ruby is one of the languages that has the least stuff to deal with
between
you and what you need to learn to make a game.
-s
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:
Ahh. The family is proud of me. Let me run off the list again.
Linebacker, mathematician, and I’ll stop with those 2. Personally, those
are my 2 favorites. Because Linebacker=Popular. Math=Smart.
I’ve never in my life met a “mathematician” who was as careless a
thinker
as you are.
Just a quick clarification: When adults talk about “mathematics”, they
don’t mean “algebra with single variables”.
-s
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:
Who said I want to start a company? Who said I was even going to release
the game at all? And why would I need infrastructure, hardware,
marketing, insurance, lawyers, and support staff if I’m not gunna
release the game? Maybe I’ll only release it to my friends? Have you
ever thought of that?
Yup.
Well, here’s the thing. If you don’t have infrastructure and hardware,
you’re
never gonna be able to PLAY your game, making the whole thing sorta
pointless.
P.S. If your gunna quote, do it write. I said I have plenty of money for
things particular things. I didn’t say I was rich.
Yeah. It’s very clear; you want us to be impressed with how you have
plenty
of money and don’t have to work, but you can still use lack of money as
an
excuse to cover the fact that you just plain don’t want to learn
anything,
because that’s TOO HARD.
-s
Joe W. wrote:
- From your original post:
I wanna make an MMORPG type game, but I have no
programming experiance whatsoever.
Sounds like you do need advise on how to start programming.Use the rest of the post. My question was How would I start making the
very sucky game I described. You need help. You like only read every
other sentance.
No, I definitely read the whole thing. But I think I have found our
lapse in communication:
YOU CAN’T MAKE A COMPUTER GAME WITHOUT AN ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF 1)
SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT AND 2) PROGRAMMING, AND IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO TEACH
YOU OVER A MAILING LIST. READ THE BOOKS WE’VE RECOMMENDED.
Btw, thinking that you have even a very basic understanding of
programming because you can use Rails’s scaffold method is like saying
you can ride a bike when you still have training wheels on your
tricycle.
–
Travis W.
“Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom –
it’s kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
girlfriend – it’s cold, unforgiving, and doesn’t tell
you what you’ve done wrong.”
unknown wrote:
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:… I have the entire game planned out.
You know, I used to say things like this.
Yup. And usually the first sign someone has no idea what’s going on. All
down hill from there.
Joe, no one is gonna do what you want for you. Take it on yourself to
learn. Just work with it. It’ll come to you. Any language really. The
more you use it the more you’ll know.
Travis D Warlick Jr wrote:
Travis W.
“Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom –
it’s kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
girlfriend – it’s cold, unforgiving, and doesn’t tell
you what you’ve done wrong.”
I wonder what ruby is in there 
Regards
Stefan
Joe W. wrote:
all like ‘ILL CALL THE COPS!’ and they never find out who did it and
then we all laugh. The younger crowd definately has it better.
Popular AND smart. You are obviously destined for great things.
…and then you egg the house. hahaha. You crazy kids.
Mark
I use the term mathematician simply to say that I am good at math. Good
as in best in my honors class. But I have grown bored of you morons who
clearly don’t have the power to A.) Assume the obvious. And B.) THINK!
As for my money situation, I don’t have money to throw around on useless
books. I do have money to, say, buy a airplane ticket to Boston and
enjoy myself. Which I am probably going to do. As of after I finish this
post, I am going to not give a shit about yall, and every week or so, I
will laugh at what you guys have to say. Hopefully you will let the
thread drift through the pages until nobody cares to go that far into
the archive. Personally, I would like to see what kind of game someone
could make in such a useless language for game making. Just to laugh at
it and point out all the obvious flaws and bugs. And as for your
spending millions of dollars on infrastruction and hardware, my friends
built their games from scratch, I play them every few days when I get
the chance, and they paid no money whatsoever to make their games. Well,
one of em bought C++ for Dummies. But it is a better book than Why’s, so
chances are it was worth it. And, so you know why my friend Shay decided
to pursue game making, guess how Patrick Wyatt is related to him. Google
Patrick Wyatt if you need to know who he his. And I’m signing out for
the last time.
Stefan R. wrote:
Travis D Warlick Jr wrote:
Travis W.
“Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom –
it’s kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
girlfriend – it’s cold, unforgiving, and doesn’t tell
you what you’ve done wrong.”I wonder what ruby is in there
Regards
Stefan
One last post, Ruby is the dog at the foot of your bed. Doesn’t do
anything useful, makes a great deal of people angry, and people would
much rather get it on with the girlfriend.
Mark G. wrote:
Joe W. wrote:
all like ‘ILL CALL THE COPS!’ and they never find out who did it and
then we all laugh. The younger crowd definately has it better.
Popular AND smart. You are obviously destined for great things.…and then you egg the house. hahaha. You crazy kids.
Mark
Yes. Us crazy kids. The problem is, we really don’t care about destined
for great things. Because all the nerds turn out like my uncle, who is
the CFO for some company in Boston, yet all of us turn out as the CEO of
the company that the CFO works for. Besides, what harm is few egged
houses going to do to a career?
Stephen Cox wrote:
unknown wrote:
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:… I have the entire game planned out.
You know, I used to say things like this.
Yup. And usually the first sign someone has no idea what’s going on. All
down hill from there.Joe, no one is gonna do what you want for you. Take it on yourself to
learn. Just work with it. It’ll come to you. Any language really. The
more you use it the more you’ll know.
/This/ is the last post. Lol. Nobody is going to do what I want. What if
I split the profits? Then loads of people are going to do what I want.
It’s called money. It comes in many forms, the most reconizable for me
are large bills. The most reconible for you are probably paychecks with
ammounts between $30,000 and $50,000.
Joe W. wrote:
Mark G. wrote:
Joe W. wrote:
all like ‘ILL CALL THE COPS!’ and they never find out who did it and
then we all laugh. The younger crowd definately has it better.
Popular AND smart. You are obviously destined for great things.…and then you egg the house. hahaha. You crazy kids.
Mark
Yes. Us crazy kids. The problem is, we really don’t care about destined
for great things. Because all the nerds turn out like my uncle, who is
the CFO for some company in Boston, yet all of us turn out as the CEO of
the company that the CFO works for. Besides, what harm is few egged
houses going to do to a career?
I thought the “dog” comment was your “last post”? Serious, why you even
waisting time here? Unless it’s some odd kink you’re into? I mean, no
one cares who you are or want at this point. So just fade away and stop
trolling.
Joe W. wrote:
Stefan R. wrote:
Travis D Warlick Jr wrote:
Travis W.
“Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom –
it’s kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
girlfriend – it’s cold, unforgiving, and doesn’t tell
you what you’ve done wrong.”I wonder what ruby is in there
Regards
StefanOne last post, Ruby is the dog at the foot of your bed. Doesn’t do
anything useful, makes a great deal of people angry, and people would
much rather get it on with the girlfriend.
There he goes again. Maybe you didn’t get it from my last post, so I’m
just going to tell you again: you can’t get anybody in here upset by
such infantile behaviour. How could we be? You just continue to portray
yourself as an idiot.
Regards (not really)
Stefan
Stefan R. wrote:
There he goes again. Maybe you didn’t get it from my last post, so I’m
just going to tell you again: you can’t get anybody in here upset by
such infantile behaviour.
But he keeps trying. Again and again. LOL
Joe W. wrote:
Wow. This is like watching a train wreck. Or, like, a really bad
Ahh. The family is proud of me. Let me run off the list again.
Linebacker, mathematician, and I’ll stop with those 2. Personally, those
About your smarts – you ought to know that, statistically, Hackers
(like the ones on this list) have IQs between 135-170. And I know that
a couple people here have PhD’s in Mathematics and do research in Math
subjects that would make your head spin, so I don’t recommend showing
off your l33t math skills.
And about your “popularity”:
“Be nice to nerds. Chances are you’ll end up working for one.”
– Bill Gates
are my 2 favorites. Because Linebacker=Popular. Math=Smart. And being a
Popular, and still smart, Linebacker equals one giant life long partay!
SO while yall 40 year olds are glad to see a bug worked out of your new
blogs and such, me and the rest of the teenage crowd are out partying,
and yall are in your houses and opening windows and yelling ‘You kids
stay off my lawn!’ while me and my crowd and yelling ‘Toga! Toga!’ (not
really, just what yall old guys are used to),
I’m in college, and we still have Toga parties, and we still yell ‘Toga!
Toga!’ Sorry to bust your bubble.
and then at about 2 AM we
egg your house, spray paint your walls, and slash your tires and your
all like ‘ILL CALL THE COPS!’ and they never find out who did it and
then we all laugh. The younger crowd definately has it better.
Just an FYI. In most states, violent trespassing can be met by the
property owner with violent force, so I don’t recommend any violent
trespassing like you’re dreaming.
Also, being that most of us are experienced hackers, we probably have
security systems setup so that you would be met with lights, alarms, and
cops before you could crap yourself. This means you would go to jail.
We would know who you were. And we would be the ones laughing.
–
Travis W.
“Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom –
it’s kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
girlfriend – it’s cold, unforgiving, and doesn’t tell
you what you’ve done wrong.”
In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:
I use the term mathematician simply to say that I am good at math.
I knew you were using it wrong.
Good as in best in my honors class.
I am stunned by how far our educational system has fallen.
But I have grown bored of you morons who
clearly don’t have the power to A.) Assume the obvious. And B.) THINK!
I have the power to assume the obvious. I also have the power to punch
myself in the face.
It’s the ability to think that keeps me from doing either.
As for my money situation, I don’t have money to throw around on useless
books.
Hmm. And yet, you say you want to make a game. You seem to think that
you’re magically gonna be able to do this without studying. I don’t
think
so.
Fact is, I’ve known people six sigmas out on the high end who needed to
study stuff to use it. And big fish in a little pond though you may be,
there’s no way you’re convincing me you’re above genius level.
-s
On 7/15/07, Peter S. [email protected] wrote:
Are you familiar with the old thing “give a man a fish, feed him for a day,
teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime?”
I prefer “Give a man a match, keep him warm for a night. Light him on
fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.”
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