Rails 3 on debian

Rails 3 requires bundler to be installed, but bundler can’t be installed
on Debian lenny because the gem version 1.2 is too old, an attempt
update is also failed, any idea?

gem update --system

ERROR: While executing gem … (RuntimeError)
gem update --system is disabled on Debian. RubyGems can be updated
using the
official Debian repositories by aptitude or apt-get.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ken P. [email protected] wrote:

Rails 3 requires bundler to be installed, but bundler can’t be installed
on Debian lenny because the gem version 1.2 is too old, an attempt
update is also failed, any idea?

Several:

  1. don’t use Debian
  2. don’t rely on any brain-dead, perpetually out-of-date package
    management system
  3. remove anything ruby/rails-related from your system and install
    fresh from source

At least, that’s what I would do… :slight_smile:


Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan

  1. don’t use Debian
  2. don’t rely on any brain-dead, perpetually out-of-date package
    management system
  3. remove anything ruby/rails-related from your system and install
    fresh from source

At least, that’s what I would do… :slight_smile:


Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan

Yes, Rubygems must be installed from source. Depending on your tastes,
Ruby can also be installed from source.

Disregard 1 & 2 as they are just trolls.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fernando P. [email protected]
wrote:

Disregard 1 & 2 as they are just trolls.

Au contraire - I see so many cases of people struggling with problems
directly caused by “the Debian way” of packaging 3rd-party software
(not just Ruby-related).

The OP’s problem is exactly that; pointing it out is hardly a “troll”.


Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan

Yes, Rubygems must be installed from source. Depending on your tastes,
Ruby can also be installed from source.

Disregard 1 & 2 as they are just trolls.

what about ubuntu Linux, does it also provide out dated rails related
resources?

Hassan, so you deploy your applications on a macbook pro, do you?

Nine out of ten apps are deployed onto a Linux machine; the majority of
those are Ubuntu(Of course, Debian based). That means you need to figure
out
how to make rubygems work nicely there. You can install rubygems from
source, or you can install upgrade_rubygems which essentially does the
same
thing. Both of these circumvent the package management system; not a
good
idea.

The correct way to do it is to use backports. For Debian you can get to
rubygems 1.3.4 by using this backport:
http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/rubygems1.8 (1.9 is also
available)

Instructions on how to do it:
http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

Foing outside the package management system is almost always a bad move.
As
soon as you do that it is much more difficult to backup and replicate
that
machine.

Hope this helps
-Jeremy

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Hassan S. <

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jeremy C. [email protected]
wrote:

Hassan, so you deploy your applications on a macbook pro, do you?

No, I develop primarily on a Mac, but I deploy (mostly) to Linux. No
Ubuntu, though :slight_smile:

Both of these circumvent the package management system; not a good
idea.

Foing outside the package management system is almost always a bad move. As
soon as you do that it is much more difficult to backup and replicate that
machine.

Well, that’s where we disagree; I don’t use the package management
system for anything specific to my application. I certainly don’t need
someone else determining that I should run some down-level hacked
up version of the software I want.

And I see no reason that implies any problems with either backup or
replication of a system. At least, that hasn’t been my experience.

YMMV!

Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan

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