Php or ruby on rails?

Also a great IDE for Ruby and Ruby on Rails is Aptana IDE with RadRails
plugins installed: http://www.aptana.com

@mdk4

If you are insistent on a point-click-drag solution, Ruby on Rails
may not be your ideal solution. My view of Rails is that it
encourages putting the most thought and care into the areas of your
Web application that are likely to be hardest to get right and most
dangerous if you get wrong. Perhaps reversing the sense of that is
better: Rails puts the most emphasis on doing right by the parts that
will screw you the worst if you get them wrong. For example:

  • Baked in generators create models, controllers (and at the same
    time views)
  • Each code generator creates skeleton tests (!!!)
  • Pushing your business logic into the model and writing meaningful
    tests will reduce the risk of your app screwing up

This is probably all obvious stuff, but it’s not an integral part of
the development methodology of most environments. That said, a
generator is typically not a menu item in an IDE. It’s a command in a
“black window” such as:

$ script/generate controller posts

I’ve found that because Rails is “opinionated” software it encourages
good practices – ones that only the more disciplined developers keep
up with using Java or ASP.NET. A relatively small number of PHP
developers do formal testing, from my experience.

If you haven’t tried Rails, put Dreamweaver away for a bit, open up a
terminal, and follow along with one of the tutorials. Only by using
the “black window” will you discover that it’s not to be feared –
rather, it will improve your productivity.

My $.02

Steve R., Thanks alot I will do that , I am glad of all your opinions
and I am also very happy it is not face to face - lol

On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever [email protected] wrote:

Hello every one,
I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people
talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search
google to know why but I did not get much results ,

can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage
ruby gives me over PHP ?

Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP.

:~)

On 18 Sep 2007, at 19:45, mdk4ever – wrote:

ok, another question, what about ASP.NET vs ruby ?

What about junk food vs restaurant food? It depends on what you
prefer, I prefer restaurant food.

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

Bob S. wrote:

On 9/18/07, Mdk4ever Mdk4ever [email protected] wrote:

Hello every one,
I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people
talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search
google to know why but I did not get much results ,

can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage
ruby gives me over PHP ?

Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP.

:~)

first one that say something like this here !!!

Hi, it’s also possible to use Flex front-end and a Rails back-end.
Thus,
please take a look at the following:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex2_rails.html

Good luck,

-Conrad

Conrad T. wrote:

Hi, it’s also possible to use Flex front-end and a Rails back-end.
Thus,
please take a look at the following:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex2_rails.html

Good luck,

-Conrad

this tutorial was excellent now I have a good idea how RoR work and hiw
it could be integrated as a backend with flex , thanks Conrad

BTW: what My $0.02 mean ??

mdk4ever – schrieb:

ruby gives me over PHP ?

Ruby on Rails sucks. Definitely use PHP.

:~)

first one that say something like this here !!!

dude, you must be unreal…

this topic has been discussed thousands of times and the net is full of
info about that

if you are really curious about and serious interested move your indian
ass and get the info yourself and dont flood the list5

just my 2 cents

mdk4ever – wrote:

BTW: what My $0.02 mean ??

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my+2+cents

mdk4ever – wrote:

BTW: what My $0.02 mean ??

On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:59 , matthibcn wrote:

move your indian ass

Comments like this haven no place on this list. Please refrain from
posting until you can discuss issues in a civil manner.

Michael G.
grzm seespotcode net

On 9/19/07, matthibcn [email protected] wrote:

if you are really curious about and serious interested move your indian
ass and get the info yourself and dont flood the list5

So wait a second, should I move my ass too ? Do you wanna change that
“indian” part ? And yes, it is offensive.

Cheers!

There is no excuse for this kind of talk. Absolutely none.

mdk4ever – wrote:

Hello every one,
I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people
talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search
google to know why but I did not get much results ,

can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage
ruby gives me over PHP ?

Thanks alot

wow, I’m surprised no one on here posted this…

http://railsenvy.com/

Check out the videos, they are funny and informative :slight_smile:

~Jeremy

Very funny videos Jeremy, thanks for the link.

mdk4ever – wrote:

Hello every one,
I used to use PHP in all my sites and recently I found some people
talking about ruby on rails framework and how great it is , I search
google to know why but I did not get much results ,

can any one explain to me why this framework is great and what advantage
ruby gives me over PHP ?

Thanks alot

You should FIRST know what a Framework is, what a programming language
is, and what the difference between them.

…then you will know the answer to your question.

People keep competing languages versus frameworks which is totally
wrong!