Onsite Training

We’re beginning to move to RoR and our company is offering to provide
training (we have several years experience with mod_perl and we’re
doing new projects in RoR)…I know of Pragmatic’s courses. Are there
any recommended onsite trainers? Checking options to bring someone in
to our office as opposed to sending several programmers out of town.

Thanks…

On Sep 7, 2007, at 3:05 PM, spariam wrote:

We’re beginning to move to RoR and our company is offering to provide
training (we have several years experience with mod_perl and we’re
doing new projects in RoR)…I know of Pragmatic’s courses. Are there
any recommended onsite trainers? Checking options to bring someone in
to our office as opposed to sending several programmers out of town.

Thanks…

If you’ve got several years with mod_perl, you’d probably save
yourselves a load of money, just take a week away from everything
else with a few good books. If you’ve got a group working on things
together you’ll get it down in a month flat.
Basic Rails is pretty simple once it sinks in. Save the training
consultant for the more complicated stuff.

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John J. wrote:

If you’ve got several years with mod_perl, you’d probably save
yourselves a load of money, just take a week away from everything else
with a few good books. If you’ve got a group working on things together
you’ll get it down in a month flat.
Basic Rails is pretty simple once it sinks in. Save the training
consultant for the more complicated stuff.

I disagree with this point of view. I’m guessing there are budgets and
deadlines – this is a corporate project, not something somebody is
doing as a hobby or as an open source community thing. Get the training

  • – it’s worth every penny of it and probably will have a major
    payback
    in terms of quality of your application and the speed at which you
    deliver it!

I’m learning Ruby from books and from hands-on experience, but it’s not
something I expect to use in my day job. If they asked me to become a
Rails developer and offered formal training, I’d jump at the chance!
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I use mod_perl for the RT (Request Tracker) server we use for ticketing
at
work. I guess I just don’t like fastcgi all that much if there’s an
alternative to use.
We don’t run any Ruby for web code, so I have no experience with
mod_ruby.

Felix

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

I disagree with this point of view. I’m guessing there are budgets and
deadlines – this is a corporate project, not something somebody is
doing as a hobby or as an open source community thing. Get the training
– it’s worth every penny of it and probably will have a major payback
in terms of quality of your application and the speed at which you
deliver it!

I’m learning Ruby from books and from hands-on experience, but it’s not
something I expect to use in my day job. If they asked me to become a
Rails developer and offered formal training, I’d jump at the chance!

P.S.: Does anybody actually use “mod_perl” any more? I thought “mod_php”
was the de-facto standard. Does anybody on this list use “mod_ruby?”
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Where is your company located? There is a site called “Working With
Rails” www.workingwithrails.com
You may be able to find some Rails developers in your area, and just
ask for a resume, Bring a rails developer on staff and have him give
all the classes so your paying an employee and not a consultant. If
your in the Las Vegas area, i’ll do it! :slight_smile:

~Jeremy

training:
David Black does training, Relevance do training, and the Pragmatic
Studios are EXCELLENT. rubypal.com, relevancellc.com, and
pragmaticstudio.com.

mod_perl tangent:
Plenty of people still use mod_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people
still use COBOL. Of course mod_perl is still around.


Giles B.

Blog: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com
Portfolio: http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
Tumblelog: http://giles.tumblr.com/

On Sep 8, 12:32 am, “M. Edward (Ed) Borasky” [email protected]
wrote:

Plenty of people still use mod_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people
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Thanks for the suggestions. A few of those I wasn’t aware of.

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Giles B. wrote:

training:
David Black does training, Relevance do training, and the Pragmatic
Studios are EXCELLENT. rubypal.com, relevancellc.com, and
pragmaticstudio.com.

mod_perl tangent:
Plenty of people still use mod_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people
still use COBOL. Of course mod_perl is still around.

Uh oh … I think I just invented MOD_COBOL
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