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On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Ryan D. [email protected]
wrote:

Occupy Rubywhy we need to moderate the 1%:

http://zenspider.com/presentations/2012-cascadia.html

Finally I got around to watching it. I have to say I viewed the talk
with mixed feelings: on one hand I wholeheartedly sympathize with the
goal. On the other hand there was a bit too much PC in there and I
feel uncomfortable with installing a “program” to improve the
community. Nobody owns the community which is a big difference to
your walled garden analogy. The owner of the garden has every right
to take measures to shape it in the way he likes (even if it is a
commune) but in a network of peers there is no authority like that.

It may be my German ancestry but I always get nervous when someone
tries to establish certain ways of behavior in a community. I’m also
slightly irritated to hear that from an US citizen (Ryan, I guess you
are, aren’t you?) who lives in a country which has much more liberal
understanding of freedom of speech than we have over here in Germany.

My approach to improving the community (as little as I participate
nowadays) is to point out where people’s language or behavior went
astray. But I would not promote common action against individuals.
Generally trying to develop placidness towards noise (or even
offenses) will give a good fundament for a positive community.

Kind regards

robert

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On 18.10.12 22:15, Robert K. wrote:

My approach to improving the community (as little as I participate
nowadays) is to point out where people’s language or behavior went
astray. But I would not promote common action against individuals.
Generally trying to develop placidness towards noise (or even
offenses) will give a good fundament for a positive community.

I think there are many cultural issues at work as well. Statements which
offend deeply or might not be safe to view at work in one place will
just not matter as much elsewhere. I find myself often thinking: Who
cares. Other things are broken (and even in code) - and not fixed. If we
cared about code as deeply as about political correctness these days,
our code would look different.

As long as we fail to NOT feed trolls and crazies, (personal action), we
should not talk about policing the community. I agree that we should let
go some things and focus on positive action.

I myself am offended by the egocentricity of the members of the
community coming from the states sometimes. But I refrain from saying so
(most of the time) and try to keep my contribution clean from those
feelings. Its not that it doesn’t matter to me, but I figure my feelings
don’t matter to the community.

Robert, I read your posts here a lot and think your point is very valid.
Thanks for making it.

kaspar