More help is available at the site, and I’m happy to field questions
and problem reports (subject to holiday schedule
Here’s my first question: all old RCRs have been discarded?
That is my understanding, from Matz; he wants to start again, just for
1.9/2.0. I’d like to make the old ones available to read, though,
especially the rejected ones… I haven’t yet but I’ll work on
that.
Comments are no longer entered on-site. Instead, there will
be a mailing list for each RCR.
This is going to be a huge help. Way to go!
Hey, on the `help’ page, could you add a bit more under the “Subscribing
to the
mailing lists” section? Specifically, what e-mail address will be
sending the
message and any other distinguishing characteristics of the e-mail, so
that
filters can be coded to sort the mail?
Another little idea maybe: a few headers with some RCR data. X-RCR-Id
and
X-RCR-Author would be really cool.
Comments are no longer entered on-site. Instead, there will
be a mailing list for each RCR.
This is going to be a huge help. Way to go!
Thanks
Hey, on the `help’ page, could you add a bit more under the “Subscribing to the
mailing lists” section? Specifically, what e-mail address will be sending the
message and any other distinguishing characteristics of the e-mail, so that
filters can be coded to sort the mail?
Yes, I can add something. Meanwhile, check for things with /RCR/i in
the sender
Another little idea maybe: a few headers with some RCR data. X-RCR-Id and
X-RCR-Author would be really cool.
I pretty much abandoned using X-headers on the theory that there would
be some Micros**t issue with them… but I guess as long as they’re
just advisory it should be OK.
How about RSS/Atom feeds? I’d like to subscribe in a more rational way than
via email. -Tim
That’s certainly possible; but as to the email, keep in mind that it’s
actually where the discussions will take place (not just an irrational
replacement for RSS
subscribe to one or more of the comment/discussion mailing
lists
More help is available at the site, and I’m happy to field questions
and problem reports (subject to holiday schedule
What’s the difference? (Besides the fact that everyone’s work and
comments on RCR’s prior has now been trashed.) The submit form looks
the same. I don’t see any mention of the “mailing lists”. I even had to
re-register. I don’t get it. Rather the rejuvenate the RCR process in
any way, I this is driving the death nail through it. With all this,
who wants to bother anymore?
Personally I think the whole idea of mailing list for each RCR is too
much. No one’s going to take the time to join a mailing list for a
single RCR. Very few people ever commented on the RCRs as it was. I
mean really. Is this just some way to shut people up without being
mean? Sort of Honey-pot for wantabe language designers? If Matz and
core team were really interested in ideas for Ruby 2 from the
community, a dedicated mailing list would be the thing to have. A place
where ideas can be hashed out. If bad, they’d die quickly. If
reasonable, Matz or whomever could encourage a formal submission --at
least then one would know their hard RCR work was going to at least get
carefully looked at.
“Comments are no longer entered on-site. Instead, there will
be a mailing list for each RCR.”
Could there be an option to differ between comments on it, and onto the
mailing list? For example I’d like to only comment on the RCR suggestion
in question, but not necessarily onto the mailing list as well. (I have
no problem if my opinion is then missed, I just want to sometimes
comment quickly on
something with my opinion/point of view).
Thanks for the report. I discovered that it was trying to assign a
number to your RCR by adding 1 to the previous number – but since
yours was the first, it tried to query the number of nil and bombed.
I’m sorry you’re finding the new process unappealing. The basics of
it – the starting again, the separate mailing lists, and so forth –
are all things that Matz asked me to implement. I’m really no more
qualified to discuss them than anyone else (other than Matz), and I’m
not going to make changes except at Matz’s direction. So ultimately
you’ll have to talk to him. I’d suggest giving it a(nother try,
though. I definitely want the whole thing to go smoothly and will try
to make sure that it does.
The other thing I will do in short order is make the old archive
available, on a read-only basis. I also have to do RSS feeds, as Tim
Bray mentioned.
“Comments are no longer entered on-site. Instead, there will
be a mailing list for each RCR.”
Could there be an option to differ between comments on it, and onto the
mailing list? For example I’d like to only comment on the RCR suggestion
in question, but not necessarily onto the mailing list as well. (I have
no problem if my opinion is then missed, I just want to sometimes
comment quickly on
something with my opinion/point of view).
Matz has asked that discussion and comments be offloaded onto the
mailing lists. The emailed comments will appear on the site, but
read-only.
If you’re a
