If you want to know what Ruby In Steel can do, just ask and I’ll give
you all the info you need. I am pretty confident that, with the release
of 1.1.5 we have the best (fastest and most accurate) IntelliSense/code
completion and the fastest debugger. If there are any other things you
want to check, I’ll be happy to let you know.
Hey Huw! Sorry for not mentioning Ruby In Steel in there. It wasn’t
meant as a slight. You’re officially invited to show off.
CCH Wrote:
BTW, as a 3rdRail expert user, can 3rdRail do what netbeans rubyide
can do?
CCH,
I wouldn’t say I’m a 3rdRail expert, but if you can name the feature(s),
I’ll get you an answer.
OK, I know this is flamebait, but as part of the 3rdRail team at
CodeGear I have to point out this is utter nonsense. I’ve never heard
anything so absurd.
Our approach to providing Rails functionality is totally different. We
have several big features that just don’t exist in RadRails, our code
completion is better and…
I don’t what the point of saying something like this is. If you’re a
fan of RadRails then use it.
We built a solid professional tool, and we’re updating it with new
features every 3 months. RadRails has been updated in a loooooong time
to my knowledge. I think aptana replaced the rhtml editor with their
own html editor, but other than that.
We built a solid professional tool, and we’re updating it with new
features every 3 months. RadRails has been updated in a loooooong time
to my knowledge. I think aptana replaced the rhtml editor with their
own html editor, but other than that.
cch: Surprise, surprise,Aptana has just released RadRails Milestone 7
into beta today
Well, I downloaded and installed Netbeans last night. It seems nice! I
am going to use it for a week and see how I get on. A couple of initial
observations:
The installation is painless. You need the JDK as well as the JRE:
Aptana just requires the JRE.
I had to change the permissions of /usr/lib/ruby/gems to allow Netbeans
to work with Ruby on Rails. This was not necessary for Aptana, which
just worked.
Netbeans “dirties” my project directory tree by adding internal files
and folders. I don’t like this and, in my two hours of playing, I’d say
this is my major gripe.
But I am going to use it continuously for a week and see how I get on…
I had to change the permissions of /usr/lib/ruby/gems to allow Netbeans
to work with Ruby on Rails. This was not necessary for Aptana, which
just worked.
This is only if you want to use Netbeans to manager your Gems. If you
don’t use Netbeans for this and use the normal gem command you don’t
need to change permissions. There have been discussions about thison the
Netbeans dev list. Tor is looking into ways to escalate privileges for
the Gems manager if required (using sudo under linux and appropriate
methods under other OSes).
Netbeans “dirties” my project directory tree by adding internal files
and folders. I don’t like this and, in my two hours of playing, I’d say
this is my major gripe.
But I am going to use it continuously for a week and see how I get on…
John
I’m loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn’t as
good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right
stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of
Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in
dynamic languages like Ruby.
I’m loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn’t as
good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right
stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of
Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in
dynamic languages like Ruby.
Anthony, keep a list of those situations in NB where code completion
isn’t helping and then try the same thing in 3rdRail. I think you’ll be
happy with what you see.
If there are code completion situations where we’re not better let me
know so we can make it better.
OK, I know this is flamebait, but as part of the 3rdRail team at
CodeGear I have to point out this is utter nonsense. I’ve never heard
anything so absurd.
Well, that was my first impression…
Our approach to providing Rails functionality is totally different. We
have several big features that just don’t exist in RadRails, our code
completion is better and…
I don’t what the point of saying something like this is. If you’re a
fan of RadRails then use it.
No, I’m not a RadRails fan. I simply use free and open source and now
I’m using NetBeans 6.0 which has several features that doesn’t exist
in RadRails and is better to writing code (by now).
I must admit I haven’t looked at 3rd Rail for a long time (early beta)
and even back then it had some great features.
What it doesn’t have is a sane download package: it doesn’t create a
single install directory, but dumps files and directories wherever you
happen to open it. And it could certainly use the option to not bother
downloading things you don’t need, like a JRE and MySQL. Installing
3rd-party packages via RPM is also something I wouldn’t like to see
done to my system.
What it also lacks is anything that tells you, before you register and
download the /330+MB/ installer, that it won’t run on your system, at
all, if you happen to be running a 64-bit OS.
One thing that has impressed me with the NetBeans development is the
speed in which I have had reported defects fixed. In the case of the one
serious issue I reported it was fixed within hours and a new build made
available… can’t ask for much more than that.
I had to change the permissions of /usr/lib/ruby/gems to allow Netbeans
to work with Ruby on Rails. This was not necessary for Aptana, which
just worked.
cch: I agree.
this is my major gripe.
cch: I noticed this when I wa test moving my projects between Aptana
Rails, 3rdrail (fieldtest edition) and nbRubyIDE
But I am going to use it continuously for a week and see how I get on…
John
I’m loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn’t as
good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right
stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of
Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in
dynamic languages like Ruby.
cch: See the “Code Completion - How Complete ?” thread.
I’m loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn’t as
good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right
stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of
Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in
dynamic languages like Ruby.
cch: See the “Code Completion - How Complete ?” thread.
Gotta agree with you there - just started using it again. I was
initially put off because of the slightly long load time and I really
miss my textmate style dark theme in radrails.
However I just tried it out on some functionality I was testing and the
debugging is great, its a real doddle to refactor some code and I love
the highlighting of similar variables. There seem to be loads of little
things like that which you dont necessarily realise are great
productivity boosters.
Now if I can find a textmate style dark theme I’ll be hooked :0)
