(JOB) Looking for RoR Engineer

Our client is looking extremely bright individuals, who can help take
this
start-up to the next level. Send me your resumes.

Requirements:

  • B.S. in Computer Science with 4+ years or M.S. in Computer Science
    with 2+ years of industry experience
  • Experience building large-scale server applications and reliable
    software
  • Expert level understanding of XML, JSON and Web Services
  • Expert level experience with an object oriented programming
    language
    (Ruby on Rails preferred)
  • Expert level experience with Database schema design, SQL and MySQL
  • Experience building social products (FB Connect, twitter API) is a
    plus
  • Strong problem solving and analytical skills
  • Highly motivated self-starter
  • Ability to tackle challenging problems on a tight schedule
  • Prior experience with building platform technologies a plus
  • Experience with Amazon Web Services (EC2, RDS, S3, MapReduce) a
    plus
  • Experience processing big data / NoSQL (MongoDB, DynamoDB, Redis)
  • Knowledge in machine-learning, natural language processing, and/or
    information retrieval are pluses
  • You learn new languages and technologies quickly, are innovative,
    enjoy challenges and have a great work ethic

And this is why people complain about job ad on this list!

No location (I will not relocate to Greece for this job)
No salary (Without the location I have no idea as to the cost of
living and cannot judge the value of the package)
No company details (I have no interest in working for another “me too”
groupon clone)

Without these details people who are unsuitable for the post will
apply and waste your time and people who are suitable will ignore it
because it is clearly a fishing expedition - you do not really have a
post available you just want a bunch of CVs to pester people with.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Peter H.
[email protected] wrote:

And this is why people complain about job ad on this list!

No location (I will not relocate to Greece for this job)

That’s the big one for me. If they can’t even put such extremely
important basic information in their post, especially while they
blather on and on about their so-called “requirements”, they have
their priorities SO skewed, or chaotic, that I probably don’t want to
deal with them at all in the first place.

No company details (I have no interest in working for another “me too”
groupon clone)

I see this all the time from external recruiters who don’t want to
reveal who the client is, in fear that candidates will go behind their
backs and apply to the company directly. Can’t blame 'em, really.

-Dave


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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jordon B. [email protected]
wrote:

Jump down off the horse, join the real world.

In the real world, smart recruiters include the essential information
up front so they don’t have to individually respond to every potential
candidate asking the exact same questions.

You are, of course, free to deal with clueless recruiters :slight_smile:


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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Dave A.
[email protected] wrote:

their priorities SO skewed, or chaotic, that I probably don’t want to
deal with them at all in the first place.

Most companies will state such a thing during the interview so why get
your knickers knotted? The fact of the matter is what makes you such
a good candidate if you get so butt hurt over such a simple thing
instead of asking the simple question to the recruiter and then basing
your decision on that. Ambition at all?

I would just as well give up on myself if I got my knickers knotted
over anything I could clarify by simply asking a question and didn’t
even think or bother to ask that question… At that point, it just
means I lost the game because I’m not even able to do the simplest
things a programmer should do, like ask questions to get
clarification.

Jump down off the horse, join the real world.

To be honest I always assume that the location is the US and given
that an ocean lies between us stop reading them. Of course given the
size of the US I would probably want to know at least the state they
are in if I was American. A city would be preferable :slight_smile:

What gets to me is the lack of industry sector, there are some areas I
do not want to work in, they are some that I am very interested in.
But as the recruiter has not said I assume the worse (another groupon
clone) and skip the ad.

Also I have no intention of giving my CV to a recruiter just so they
can pester me with jobs I have no interest in (some recruiters go
strait to trash, I have mail rules to deal with them). So I’m not
going to send my CV in on spec.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Jordon B. [email protected]
wrote:

Most companies will state such a thing during the interview so why get
your knickers knotted?

Do you have infinite time for interviews? I’d much rather know ASAP
that it’s not going to pan out. It’s just another form of “fail
fast”.

The fact of the matter is what makes you such
a good candidate if you get so butt hurt over such a simple thing
instead of asking the simple question to the recruiter

I do. If you frequent the Ruby groups on LinkedIn, you’ll see dozens
of messages from me asking some idiotic excuse of a recruiter,
“Location?!”. I used to bother typing out something like “Could you
please tell us where this job is located?” – but that got tiresome
after the first several in the same day. Not surprisingly, the
majority of these so-called “recruiters” are just plain drive-by
spammers who don’t bother answering.

-Dave


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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Peter H.
[email protected] wrote:

To be honest I always assume that the location is the US

As far as the ones I’ve seen on LinkedIn go, you’re usually right, but
in a significant number of cases it turns out to be somewhere in
India. Of course, that’s still probably far from you. Once in a
while, though, it turns out to be London, which I’d guess is much
closer to you. (Unless maybe you meant the other ocean bordering
the USA.)

Of course given the size of the US
I would probably want to know at least the state they
are in if I was American. A city would be preferable :slight_smile:

Exactly. And even within a city, a more precise location can make a
big difference. I live about 20 miles west of Washington DC. I’ll
commute by Metro to the west corner (it’s shaped like a square on a
point), maybe even the middle, but not the far point, nor transfer in
the middle to hit the north or south parts, unless it’s an utterly
fantastic opportunity. And parts I can’t get to by Metro are right
out.

What gets to me is the lack of industry sector, there are some areas I
do not want to work in, they are some that I am very interested in.
But as the recruiter has not said I assume the worse (another groupon
clone) and skip the ad.

Huh. I don’t think I’d advise that tactic, but whatever floats your
boat…

Also I have no intention of giving my CV to a recruiter just so they
can pester me with jobs I have no interest in (some recruiters go
strait to trash, I have mail rules to deal with them). So I’m not
going to send my CV in on spec.

I’ll send it on some degree of spec. They have to at least mention
what sounds at first like a reasonably appropriate job.

If their first contact to me is to ddress me as “Dear Actively” and
try to talk me into being a Sharepoint Administrator in Ohmygod
Nebraska, no, the email gets marked as spam, and I take anything else
they send me with more and more grains of salt. (Sharepoint appears
nowhere on my resume or profiles, which all clearly state I’m looking
in or near Northern Virginia, or remotely, and Nebraska is about 1100
miles away.)

But if the emai addresses me by correct name, references specific
experience on my resume, and is for, say, a C++ job in Reston (about
10 miles away, and I’ve worked there before), okay, I’m not much
interested in C++ right now, but it was an honest try, that fits with
what I desires could fit on a resume. That one, I’ll give a resume,
except maybe if they say they only handle C++ jobs.

-Dave


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info.

Not sure if you aware of it or not but Greece has a high chance of going
bankrupt. So that maybe where the concerns come from. Blue sea is nice
when
you can live in the country w/o a good chance for your company to be
nationalized, drop in value, or start paying you in some bogus currency
which they’ve been printing 24/7 for 3 months (= little real value).

2012/9/14 Panayotis M. [email protected]

Panayotis

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Gintautas

Peter … you are absolutely right.

BTW1, Greece is very-very-very cheap and has fantastic weather and
beautiful sea and beaches.
:slight_smile:

BTW2. I am certain that this job cannot come from a Greek company. Greek
companies rarely use Ruby on Rails. Most of them use java technologies
and
.NET

Panayotis

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[email protected]> wrote:

because it is clearly a fishing expedition - you do not really have a


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No problem. I deduce you are Greek. And that you tried to advocate
working
in Greece is similar to working in DE or US, which is not that case at
this
point.

I mean people should decide by themselves where to work. And working in
Greece (or any other country) is OK with me. I was just pointing out
that
the same job proposal could be crap under certain circumstances.

I am simply for telling people where they’d be working for right off.
You
tried to defend Greece as a viable option. It might be, I don’t know,
but
relocating there would pose serious questions for an informed applicant.

You know where there is high risk, there is also an opportunity. So
Greece
is OK, again, in my book, but letting people know whether they’d be
working
in Beirut or NY could be a page turner for most.

2012/9/15 Panayotis M. [email protected]

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No problem. I deduce you are Greek. And that you tried to advocate
working
in Greece is similar to working in DE or US, which is not that case at
this
point.

I mean people should decide by themselves where to work. And working in
Greece (or any other country) is OK with me. I was just pointing out
that
the same job proposal could be crap under certain circumstances.

I am simply for telling people where they’d be working fof

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Not sure if you aware of it or not but Greece has a high chance of going
bankrupt. So that maybe where the concerns come from. Blue sea is nice when
you can live in the country w/o a good chance for your company to be
nationalized, drop in value, or start paying you in some bogus currency
which they’ve been printing 24/7 for 3 months (= little real value).

@Gintautas …Ah ok. Thanks for telling me that. You may also need to
find
ways to improve your sense of humor.

BR
Panayotis
P.S. I am working for a Greek company that has 200% sales growth every
year
the last 3 years. We are 80 people, only, and we now have 130M Euro in
sales by end of August, only for 2012. Hope we reach 200M Euro by end of
year. Believe me, that we have good ways to circumvent any bankruptcy.
Also, believe me, that rumors is something that we do not base our
business
on.

.NET

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Well if a country requests billions in euros of help, it indicates that
they are not ‘well’ nation wide. I meant that the country of work is
important and should be mentioned in a job proposal. That’s it.

Yeah I must’ve missed the joke on this one. It looked like a Greek tried
to
defend the proposition that working next to a sea is more important than
the longer term guarantees for an applicant.

If you take the fact that Greece is a step from bankrupt, then this
mailing
list is not a place to defend such claim. Just let people know and
they’ll
decide by themselves.

2012/9/15 Gintautas Šimkus [email protected]

Really? From all the countries in the world you wouldn’t relocate to
Greece
to begin with?

@Gintautas I agree with you that all the details of a job posting should
be
there from the beginning. But, please, exactly as you say that “this
mailing list is not a place to defend claims about Greece being a step
from
bankrupt”
you need to know that this mailing list is not for you to tell anybody
that Greece is a step from bankrupt in the first place. NO IT IS NOT A
FACT
that
has to do anything with this list.
*
*
Is that clear?

I believe that we need to start talking seriously here. Ask for job
postings to be fully detailed - and I am all with you, but stop telling
whether Greece is a step before or after anything. It is the person who
will read the post that will make his
own research/search about it.

Panayotis

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they’ll decide by themselves.

the same job proposal could be crap under certain circumstances.ou

Not sure if you aware of it or not but Greece has a high chance of
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Panayotis M., I think we agree on the issue of getting enough
basic info from the initial ad text. I felt my thoughts about Greece was
correct in general, but loosely (and harshly) phrased. So I take the
“bankrupt” word back; though that’s how I’d feel about this particular
country of work (again risking to have my numbers off, but 100+ billion
in
financial help for 10 mln people are a lot in my book, as compared to my
country of 3 mln country in which such numbers don’t even come up) even
when talking about the whole budget.

2012/9/17 Agis A. [email protected]