IronRuby on Netbeans

Hello,

This is just my suggestion.

Netbeans 6.5 shall support (1)Ruby (2) JRuby (3) Python and (4) Php.

These are all open source projects(languages) and so is IronRuby.

I understand Sun and Microsoft are rivals, but IronRuby is an open
source project and i dont see any comeptition in this case. If Sun does
not hate PHP, it should not hate IronRuby too.

Currently i am working on Ruby On Rails, with JVM and Netbeans 6.1 and
Jruby 1.1 on my XP machine and everything seems to be working smoothly.
I think rather than waiting for another IDE to emerge, it would be nice
if some support for IronRuby is added to Netbeans and let the OSS
Community cheerup with IronRuby as the 5th option.

Since 4 popular languages are already there i don’t see any reason why
IronRuby should be neglected.

Thanks.

Isn’t that just a matter of telling netbeans which ruby interpreter you
want
to use along with some other parameters.

Hello,

Let me make it clear…

I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans.

I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find
confusing.

Thanks

Exactly what I was taking about.
In netbeans go into Tools - Ruby Platforms .

You can’t at the moment but when there will be full gem support I don’t
see
how IronRuby couldn’t be used with netbeans as is. Netbeans works with
ruby
but it has no special hooks in ruby or jruby for that matter AFAIK

Our experience with IronRuby and JRuby support in Ruby In Steel has been
that the main ‘problem areas’ are debugging (JRuby) and Visual design
(IronRuby) as these require some degree of direct ‘contact’ with the
specific Ruby implementation. Other features such as editing and project
management are not implementation dependent. I would imagine the same
would be true for Netbeans. Supporting code-completion/IntelliSense on
the .NET side of the equation is also a potential problem.

best wishes
Huw

SapphireSteel Software
Ruby and Rails In Visual Studio
http://www.sapphiresteel.com

Web R. wrote:

Hello,

Let me make it clear…

I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans.

I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find
confusing.

Thanks

Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks
are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby.
ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade.

Mario G. writes:

Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks
are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby.
ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade.

There are at least two good reasons someone might want to use IronRuby
with ASP.NET MVC. The first is that you may be in an environment where
IIS and/or ASP.NET is mandated but still want the flexibility of a
dynamic language. The second is performance. With IronRuby, it’s
possible to run multiple ScriptRuntimes within a single process, giving
a reasonable amount of isolation within a single process. The level of
isolation can be increased further by running in multiple AppDomains.
In contrast, Rails targets an environment where the expectation is that
isolation will be achieved by running in separate processes – and
there’s a performance cost for that.

It remains to be seen how much of this is mitigated by the recent work
done to add thread-safety to Rails 2.2.

The flip side of this is that there’s a good deal of work that needs to
be done before any of this is a reality.


Curt H.
[email protected]

Here’s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is
implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby?

Thanks,
-John

Here’s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is
implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby?

Interesting. No, so long as monkey patching still works (plugins).

Andrew.

John L. (IRONRUBY) wrote:

Here’s a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is
implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby?

Thanks,
-John

I agree 100%. As long as it is Rails and (Iron)Ruby who cares what VM it
is on? My point is ASP.NET MVC != Rails. I do not want to use IronRuby
in ASP.NET MVC, I want to use IronRuby + Rails on IIS/ASP.NET.

The answer depends on what libraries I want to use really. If there’s a
Java library I want to leverage, then I’ll use JRuby. If there’s a .NET
library it’d be IronRuby… If it’s just Ruby libraries, then I
shouldn’t
care. (C extensions not withstanding).

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM, John L. (IRONRUBY)

Ditto. A huge deal for my company at least is imagemagick/rmagick and
memcache. Probably memcache being the single most important one.
Hopefully it won’t prove difficult to port to .net

On 29/08/2008, at 12:57 AM, “Michael L.”
<[email protected]

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