hi
After working with some ruby projects and playing with existing
sources I decided to finally get my hands dirty. It’s an interesting
experiences with similarities of learning a human language where your
comprehension skills are far more better than your speaking skills.
Basically the problem I have that I’ve written too much excellent ruby
code, without a deeper knowldedge of what the code really do, but with
a rather feeling ‘that looks terse’ vs. ‘that looks clunky’.
Now that I actually begin to write code of my own, I find myself in a
similar position as somebody after a brainsurgery trying to learn how
to speak. Its grinding and for every line I write I think for myself
‘oh god that’s probably wrong’.
So the thing I’m looking for is a mailinglist where I can post my
pathetic code in order to discuss it with some more experienced
writers.
thanks
ben
gmail should rename the ‘Send’ button into ‘read again and find typos’
so don’t blame me 
A little accretion to my post: I asked for the beginner list because I
have the habbit of asking stupid questions. It’s often the only way
for me to understand things, but I also want to avoid by any means to
piss people off by ‘polluting’ ‘their’ mailinglist.
Perhaps you could use different code profiling tools and benchmarks to
learn what works well and what doesn’t?
For example, look at ruby Pretty, or these:
http://ruby.sadi.st/Ruby_Sadist.html
Casimir P.
Ben A. kirjoitti:
For example, look at ruby Pretty, or these:
Confessions of a Ruby Sadist The time has come to show your code who’s boss.
I found nothing for ‘ruby Pretty’ do you have a link maybe
I’ve installed Ruby Sadist, but analysing the results is a bit too
complicated for me at rightnow.
Do you know http://perlcritic.com/. It’s really cool especially for
learning and improving your perl skills. Something like this for ruby
would be awesome.
On 12 Aug 2008, at 11:53, Ben A. wrote:
A little accretion to my post: I asked for the beginner list because I
have the habbit of asking stupid questions. It’s often the only way
for me to understand things, but I also want to avoid by any means to
piss people off by ‘polluting’ ‘their’ mailinglist.
Hi Ben,
There isn’t a beginners list, so post away! There’s some talk about
whether or not one should be created, but nothing concrete has
happened yet.
Fred
so post away!
on workingwithrails.com your authority level is 50% and the popularity
level is 96% so I guess I must believe you 
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Frederick C.
On Aug 12, 6:41 am, “Ben A.” [email protected] wrote:
to speak. Its grinding and for every line I write I think for myself
‘oh god that’s probably wrong’.
Every line you write will have to be rewritten 10 times. You can
usually tell poor code b/c it looks as if it has only been rewritten 5
times 
T.