On 5/3/07, anansi firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
well first of all I didn’t knew that this newsgroup is limited to just
some aspects of ruby, maybe you should do some white- or black-listing
on topics if you think mine wouldn’t fit here.
But every question I droped was answered here very fast and correclty
because as I thought it is obvious that many ppl who uses the Rails
framework also suscribed to the ruby-list.
This may be, but in general, you’ll find more rails expertise on the
rails group. I’ve seen lots of rails-related questions go unanswered
here because no one with the right rails knowledge saw it.
And about the rails (not mailing- and not newsgroup) but google.group:
you really think it’s clever to be forced to register (when I wanna sign
up to this list I always get: “You must sign in to Google to complete
the previous action.”) to one of the greatest commercial companys on the
planet in order to get knowledge about one of the most free programming
languages on the planet? I don’t think so
That’s a question for the rails community rather than the general ruby
community, and even though it might be a catch-22 situation, the ruby
list is where it should be raised.
I mean, I’m sure you also realized that ruby never succeded in the step
to spread his information over http and any good forums or websites
about ruby are more rare than unicorns…
Hmm, you must not be looking very hard. I’ve got about 50 different
Ruby oriented blogs in the list of rss feeds I look at. You might
also want to use resources like del.icio.us.
And my most valuable tool in finding information about ruby, or
anything else is http://www.google.com although again for you that
might be a catch-22.
This isn’t directed at you personally, but a lot of questions get
asked here and on other fora which exhibit evidence that the
questioner hasn’t done his homework before asking the question.
Questions are much more likely to get answered if the question shows
that the questioner has tried to solve the problem himself first, and
gives clear context information about where he’s gotten stuck.
Of course this is just reiterating part of the canonical exposition on
how to ask smart questions:
so please let me this
newsgroup because it kicks ass
No one says you can’t, just don’t be surprised if you don’t get all of
your rails questions answered, and occasionally get a response which
suggests checking the rails group.
Again quoting ESR:
“Know what your topic is! One of the classic mistakes is asking
questions about the Unix or Windows programming interface in a forum
devoted to a language or library or tool portable across both. If you
don’t understand why this is a blunder, you’d be best off not asking
any questions at all until you get it.”
This seems to map directly to asking about rails in a ruby-language
forum. If this were a more typical usenet technical forum you might
get treated much more rudely.
Luckily , for all of us, ruby-lang seems to be one of the more genteel
forums on the “interwebs”.
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