On 2011-01-30, at 19:02, Luis L. wrote:
RubyGems post_install is not scripts, perhaps you’re using extension
compilation to make that happen, which is intrusive to the user.
You are right, I use the extension compilation to run the extra install step.
How is this intrusive?
If user grant RubyGems sudo to install the gem and it’s dependencies,
you’re sneaking something that the user was not aware of.
If the user using a gem list find this gem he didn’t install, on
uninstallation no dependency warning will be triggered, and the
original gem will not work because of that.
True. I consider this a flaw and would very much like to solve that,
You’re also bringing Bundler when the user might not want it into the
mix and slowing down the gem loading process.
I would rather add Bundler than not have the gem install all its dependencies.
The user experience is what matters, and this way all dependencies install
correctly and the gem is ready for use regardless of the users platform.
This is similar case to what Hoe did in the past, as add it as
dependency even that you used for development only. Search for it.
The difference is that Bundler is a good gem for setting up runtime
dependencies. It is not a development only gem.
Bundler is awesome for development, but is awful for runtime
dependency. You should not be imposing bundler to the user and even
less for runtime execution.
Why not? Bundler is awesome for runtime dependencies as well. It is the
default mechanism for Ruby On Rails runtime dependencies.
Good article, and valid if your main concern is application startup
time. My main concerns are ease of installation, and performance after
startup. Bundler fits that need.
These are valid concerns, and it looks like they are being taken
seriously, so hopefully they will be sorted out. I appreciate your
efforts on improving Ruby on Windows.
If your gem hits any of these issues, you need to address them, and
maybe using Bundler is not your solution. If your gem does not hit
these issues, maybe you accept your gem will not be used on Windows,
Bundler is a solution to the original problem of having a valid set of
gems installed with your gem without the user having to do extra steps.
I would like to hear other solutions than using Bundler that enables the
correct installation of dependent gems that vary with the user’s
With kind regards