How do you desing forms in RoR

Hi all,

what is the best way tod esing a form in RoR?

Do you use Dreamweaver or something similar?

thanks

Jose P. wrote:

Hi all,

what is the best way tod esing a form in RoR?

Do you use Dreamweaver or something similar?

thanks

Well, RoR is a language/framework. Dreamweaver doesn’t “know”
Ruby/Rails. You’re much better off learning to handcode. There is no
visual editor to the best of my knowledge. Radrails
(http://www.radrails.org) is a good place to start, but there is no
visual editor there, either.

Regards,
Henning K.

It looks like RubyWeaver allows to create RoR pages with dreamweaver
http://www.ridingtheclutch.com/entry.cfm?id=58

Richard C. wrote:

I think RadRails is rhtml-aware. Don’t know how much,
I have mostly stuck to FreeRIDE’s syntax friendliness.

I am wondering though if there are visual designers or
good editors at least that support CSS-layout. Was a bit
annoyed that Rails view generators spat out tables (i.e.
stuff I am going to have to strip out later).

I don’t know if DreamWeaver has Rails view editing.

Use whatever tool works for you to generate a plain-html version of
the page. Yes, even Dreamweaver, if that floats your boat.

Copy the html code into your view folder and add Rails markup.

I also agree with Henning that you pretty much have to learn how to
hand-code HTML at some point to be effective as a web developer.

There are - to my knowledge - no “Visual Editors” to WYSIWYG-edit
rhtml. And I don’t think there should be - properly written rhtml with
helper methods is easy to read and edit. Reliance on tools ends up
somewhere we don’t want to go. Look at the mess that is JSP in Java or
ASPX in .NET.

Max

I think RadRails is rhtml-aware. Don’t know how much,
I have mostly stuck to FreeRIDE’s syntax friendliness.

I am wondering though if there are visual designers or
good editors at least that support CSS-layout. Was a bit
annoyed that Rails view generators spat out tables (i.e.
stuff I am going to have to strip out later).

I don’t know if DreamWeaver has Rails view editing.

I’m thinking if you can code in ROR you can learn to hand code CSS and
XHTML.
My skills in all 3 are still beginner level but prior to my work in
PHP I was using Dreamweaver. Anyway, I started to open that up a few
times, load the rhtml which has to be renamed first, etc , then back
to Rails Anyway, best thing is handcode, it’s neater and faster
anyway and you’ll wind up knowing it inside out instead of relying on
tools to do the work.
You can just keep your browswer opened to your pages and edit .rhtml
and reload pages to see changes. Works fine.

Stuart

Taking this a slightly different direction. If you want to be able to
utilize WYSIWYG html to design your pages and even be able to re-edit
them (with a WYSIWYG editor) at any point, then you could look into
using the MasterView plugin.

MasterView allows you to work with html and adds the rails
functionality by adding attributes (directives) to your html. These
directives don’t affect WYSIWYG editing, but at runtime get
transformed into live rhtml under the covers. The directives have very
similar syntax to the rails helpers to make it easy to learn.

The result is that you can continue to edit your html even late in the
project and your live pages will pick all the design changes up when
running.

MasterView allows you to use any standard rhtml functionality
including partials, helpers, layouts, and we are working on even more
powerful directives that will encapulate other exciting functionality
like ajax’d sortable table grids.

MasterView also has a generator that can be used to create your
starting html with the directives already in there. It is designed to
be more production ready in that it has CSS styles defined so that you
can easily customize from there, but you can use MasterView with or
without the generator.

MasterView is a Rubyforge project and the home page
http://masterview.org/

I’d be glad to answer any questions that you have about the project.

Jeff

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