How do you actually use rails on a shared server?

I’ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine however I have
no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it doesn’t seem
quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
application that I used on my windows which I created through the
shell.

Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
interpeted?

These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
=). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
What do I do!

[email protected] wrote:

I’ve successfully installed rails on my windows machine however I have
no idea how to use rails on a shared server that I have recently
purchased. This is running rails on a linux box and it doesn’t seem
quite as simple as just uploading a bunch of data via ftp such as my
application that I used on my windows which I created through the
shell.

Do I have to use a shell on the linux box and create the application?
Is it as simple as PHP where you just upload a file and the script is
interpeted?

These things are really ailing me with ruby and discourage please help
=). I want to get up and starting on working with rails on this linux
box and code on my windows but it seems like I have execute a shell on
the linux one, issue the command to create an application, download
the application control files and then code. Is there any SIMPLE way?
What do I do!

Does this host support Rails applications? Rails is not like PHP - it
requires a more detailed installation to work correctly. If the host
does support Rails apps, then they probably have a guide on how to
install your application.

If they don’t support Rails apps, then there’s a pretty good chance
you’re sunk. It pays to check and make sure the host you are planning on
using actually supports your framework before you sign the contract.

I’m in the same boat. My gut is that even though there are some very
SEXY ways to deploy, on a rails enable server there must be a way to:

  1. Upload the development tree of files
  2. Create a .htaccess file somewhere appropriate to deal with all the
    rewrite stuff.

No?

I’d love to see some details on that. Yes, longer term I’m going to do
things in a tidy manner but for now I need something quick and dirty.

Keith

On Feb 19, 9:51 am, Bryan D. [email protected]

FWIW I had a shared hostiing account with one of the well known rails
oriented providers. And it was a complete waste of my time.

I did get to learn about deployment steps, lighttpd, etc. But then the
server kept falling over.

So I splashed out on a vps with a deployment gem and it’s been a
smooth ride ever since.

Not only is the server up, but my development practise is improving. I
can deploy continually throughout the day and my clients love seeing
changes to their “development” site.

The money spent on a decent bit of web space is well worth the time
not spent farting about on a crappy shared environement.

My 2 bits…

Yes rails is installed. Do I have to use a shell just to start the
creation of a rails application or can I upload tree files on my
desktop to the server?

On Feb 19, 9:51 am, Bryan D. [email protected]

On 2/19/07, [email protected] [email protected] wrote:

Yes rails is installed. Do I have to use a shell just to start the
creation of a rails application or can I upload tree files on my
desktop to the server?

You can upload the files, but first you’ll need to configure the
environment. e.g. lighttpd / mongrel / ? and the apache proxying.

What I did was get SSH access, and I re-created my application, and
generated my models. Then I was able to just upload changes in my views,
controllers, models etc as I felt like it. Seems to work alright…

gah yeah I guess I have to do that. I have shell access but I can’t
seem to connect through putty–maybe it’s my connection here at my
school hence why I am checking if there’s another way…

On Feb 19, 12:38 pm, Steve K. [email protected]

On 2/19/07, KJH [email protected] wrote:

I’m in the same boat. My gut is that even though there are some very
SEXY ways to deploy, on a rails enable server there must be a way to:

  1. Upload the development tree of files

Most web hosts support SSH and/or FTP.

  1. Create a .htaccess file somewhere appropriate to deal with all the
    rewrite stuff.

All the Rails apps I’ve created came with their own .htaccess file.

No?

Yes?

I’d love to see some details on that. Yes, longer term I’m going to do
things in a tidy manner but for now I need something quick and dirty.

Your specific deployment options will depend greatly on the particular
web host you use. You might check out a few of them and see what you
like best:

http://railshostinginfo.com/


Greg D.
http://destiney.com/

On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:48 AM, toby privett wrote:

So I splashed out on a vps with a deployment gem and it’s been a
smooth ride ever since.

Can you flesh that out a little?

“splashed”
“vps”
“deployment gem”

I, too, would like to enjoy a smooth ride! :slight_smile:

smooth ride ever since.
Can you flesh that out a little?

“splashed”
“vps”
“deployment gem”

Certainly, I’m using railsmachine.com.

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