Help!

Hi,

i’m fairly new to ruby on rails, and i know the question at hand may
seem simple at first, but i’m getting really caught up in trying to
understand this and the docs aren’t giving me answer. i actually thought
i knew how the sql commands work (like :include, :conditions, :etc) but
obviously, i don’t.

there are three models M1, M2, M3 joined by a habtam relashinship of

M1 has_and_belongs_to_many M2
M2 has_and_belongs_to_many M1
M2 has_and_belongs_to_many M3
M3 has_and_belongs_to_many M2

and a MyController which is the backbone of the site. (although i
haven’t specified exactly {model :M1} or something like that in the
controller, but as far as i know, that shouldn’t change anything [?]).

in MyController i have an action that selects rows from M1 with an
:include => ‘M2s’ and that changes the sql output to “outer left
join…etc” which is great. . . but when i want to add a :conditions
clause, i find that it doesn’t add the conditon correctly into the outer
left join sql command, and it ends up giving me an sql syntax error!
If i try to use the :conditions clause alone (without :include) , i get
no error, which is great.
:slight_smile:

but how do i get the two together?? isn’t it possible to put a
:condition on a select[habtam] action? am i missing something entirely,
or is there something small i am missing? maybe i need to define
something in the controller regarding the three models, or …???

i appreciate any help…
thanks.

harper

harper wrote:

Hi,

in MyController i have an action that selects rows from M1 with an
:include => ‘M2s’ and that changes the sql output to “outer left
join…etc” which is great. . . but when i want to add a :conditions
clause, i find that it doesn’t add the conditon correctly into the outer
left join sql command, and it ends up giving me an sql syntax error!
If i try to use the :conditions clause alone (without :include) , i get
no error, which is great.
:slight_smile:

Hi Harper. This all sounds incredibly complicated, and perhaps there’s
something I’m missing in your question that requires that complexity,
but here’s the simple case.

Where foo has_and_belongs_to_many :bars you create the bollowing tables:

foos (id, name, etc)
bars (id, description, etc)
bars_foos (bar_id, foo_id)

Here, bars_foos is the ‘join table’ which implements the habtm
relationship.

from a given foo, you can ask for bars.first.description, or iterate
across it like

bars.each{ |b| b.description }

That all works out of the box. All you need is the habtm declaration
and the tables…no magic sql.

Since you have three entity table and two habmt relationships, you need
to join tables. I’ll call your models Alpha, Beta and Gamma.

alphas (id, blah, blah )
betas (id, blah, blah )
gammas (id, blah, blah )

alphas_betas(alpha_id, beta_id)
betas_gammas(beta_id, gamma_id)

And declare the habtms in the appropriate places.

Does this help at all ?

Alan

Hi Alan,

first of all firsts, thank you for your detailed answer and a piece of
your time; it’s greatly appreciated.
so, the deal is that i have done all of the above, and the habtam
relashinship works great between the three models. i can append a alpha
into the beta.alphas array, and a beta into the gama.betas array, and
yatta yatta. everything works like a charm.
the problem i am having is trying to select Alpah.find(:all, :include =>
betas, :conditions => beta_id in (1,3,a,b,5…) AND ##this is the
important part where i fail### title LIKE ?", #{beta.title})
for some very annoying reason, i can’t use a condition statement,
becuase the outputted sql command is not in the right clause (a ‘where
blah = blah’ and ‘outer left join’ habtam relashinships).
i found this a sec ago:

“…The problem that eager loading does not honor conditions and
ordering
is a long known one, but dealing with it seems
extremely convoluted as I see it (to do it properly you really need a
PROPER database that doesn’t die on you when
you do nested SELECTs).” (= i.e, there’s no way to combine a habtam
relashinship ‘find’ statement with a ‘conditions’. don’t know why, but
that’s the deal)

do you know any other way to combine a :conditons and an :include
statemnt under the same ‘find’ action(when under a habtam relashinship)?
maybe i got it all wrong, and there is some stupid mistake. if i was
told clear-cut, that there shouldn’t be a problem, i’d go and try to do
it again , however i can’t find anyone who will give me a clear answer;
and if i CAN’T combine the two statements together, well, how do i ?

again, your help is much much much,
much, appreciated.

thanks.
harper

harper wrote:

“Also have in mind that since the eager loading is pulling from multiple
tables, youâ??ll have to disambiguate any column references in both
conditions and orders. So :order => “posts.id DESC” will work while
:order => “id DESC” will not. This may require that you alter the :order
and :conditions on the association definitions themselves.”

perhaps you need to specify the tables in the :conditions ?

:conditions => “alphas.beta_id in (1,3,a,b,5…) AND betas.title LIKE ?”,
#{beta.title})"

A.
p.s. why restrict beta on both id and title at the same time ? If you
know the beta_id, do you need the title ?
p.p.s Any chance you could give us the real model names, it’ll sit
easier in the brain.

I see you resolved this in another thread :slight_smile:

Alan

harper wrote:

Hi Harper,

first of all firsts, thank you for your detailed answer and a piece of
your time; it’s greatly appreciated.

Absolutely no problem.

do you know any other way to combine a :conditons and an :include
statemnt under the same ‘find’ action(when under a habtam relashinship)?
maybe i got it all wrong, and there is some stupid mistake. if i was
told clear-cut, that there shouldn’t be a problem, i’d go and try to do
it again , however i can’t find anyone who will give me a clear answer;
and if i CAN’T combine the two statements together, well, how do i ?

I’m afraid I’m out of my depth. My Rails knowledge is broad but shallow
:slight_smile: I’ll try and do a bit of digging in parallel.

At the risk of appearing to dodge the question, do you need the eager
loading ? Have you seen a performance problem ? Hopefully it doesn’t
look too much like dodging the question, as I started with an honest “I
have no idea” :slight_smile:

A.

yea…
i totaly didn’t follow what was going on in this thread…although now
that i’ve found out, you should see the smile behind the computer
screen.
thanks for the concern!

harp

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