Help a noob

Ok, I have been programming for two days now. Ruby is my first
language ever. But all the books I look for already assume you have a
good deal of knowledge in programming. Does anyone know where I can get
a good basic start that will give me lots of examples? Also if it is
possible can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? This is my
first program so please do not make too much fun of me. Thanks yall.

-Mehektet-

This is my program…

Program will ask for a persons personal information and then display

the results on the screen. Finally it will ask a person to give their

favourite number and then add it to their age and suggest a new

favourite number.

puts ‘What is your first name?’
Fname = gets.chomp
puts ‘What is your middle name?’
Mname = gets.chomp
puts ‘What is your last name?’
Lname = gets.chomp

puts ‘’

puts ‘What is your age?’
Age = gets.chomp

puts ‘’

puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
Fnum = gets.chomp

puts ’ ’

puts ‘This is your information…’
puts 'You are ’ +Fname+ ’ ’ +Mname+ ’ ’ +Lname+ ‘.’
puts 'Your age is ’ +Age+ ‘.’
puts 'And your favourite number is ’ +Fnum+ ‘.’

C = Fnum.to_i
A = Age.to_i

NFnum = C + A

puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum+ ‘.’

Correct the last line as follows:

puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ + NFnum.to_s + ‘.’

that is , convert an integer to a string with ‘to_s’ before adding to
another string.

Also, it is a convention to use small letters for simple variable names,
so
change the names like Fname as follows:
Fname to f_name or first_name

You can search for on line tutorials to start with.

Prasad

2010/3/25 Omar V. [email protected]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Omar V.
[email protected]wrote:

Mname = gets.chomp
puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
C = Fnum.to_i
A = Age.to_i

NFnum = C + A

puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum+ ‘.’

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Hi, Omar.

As you have realized, you need to convert the the age and Fnum to
integers
in order to add them. Now that you want to add them to the strings,
though,
you need to convert them back to strings. You can do this with the to_s
method. So you should change
puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum+ ‘.’
into
puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum.to_s+ ‘.’


A few suggestions for you:

In Ruby, constants begin with uppercase letters, and variables begin
with
lowercase letters. While they don’t change in this particular program,
the
name and age and so on are really more variables than constants. Maybe
the
user has a birthday, or gets married and changes their surname. So I
would
use lowercase variables here. For example:
puts ‘What is your first name?’
fname = gets.chomp

Personally, I’d even call it first_name because you’re going to have to
read
it later. Since Ruby is dynamically typed, descriptive variable names
can
help you avoid a lot of errors, as they imply what kind of data they
contain. Fnum, for example, doesn’t mean anything to me until I read the
code to see how it is used. But favourite_num is pretty fairly forward.
If
you don’t like the additional typing, a good text editor should do
completion for you, where you type the firs few characters and press a
key
to have it figure out what name you are writing and complete it for you.

I would store the numeric variables as numbers. That is really what they
are, and you shouldn’t store them as something different just because
that
is the format you received them in. You can see that it even created a
headache for you, having to create two new variables to hold the integer
versions (that is also partially due to using constants).
So I would change
puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
Fnum = gets.chomp
into
puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
favourite_num = gets.chomp.to_i

Regarding the above example, to_i will convert a string to an integer,
up
until it finds a non numeric character. You use .chomp to remove the
newline, but to_i will stop there automatically, so it can be simplified
further with
puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
favourite_num = gets.to_i

You are creating your string by concatenating. That is just a fancy way
of
saying that you use the plus sign :slight_smile: In most cases with Ruby, it is
preferable to use interpolation, which is a fancy way of saying that you
embed the value inside the string rather than adding it to the string.
This
is a little bit more efficient, and most of the time is easier to read.
It
also has the nice advantage of calling the to_s method for you on
whatever
it receives, so, for example, where you have Fnum.to_s, you could just
leave
as Fnum. The interpolated version would look like this
puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum.to_s+ ‘.’
becomes
puts “Maybe, your favourite number should be #{NFnum}.”
You need to use double quotes when interpolating, and wherever you have
#{…} inside of it, that is a little area where you can place your
code.

This is just a style thing, and not necessarily an agreed upon community
conclusion, but I would put the print statement and the gets statement
on
the same line, and split them with a semicolon. A semicolon tells Ruby
that
you are writing a new line, even though all the code is on the same
line. So
I would change
puts ‘What is your first name?’
Fname = gets.chomp
into
puts ‘What is your first name?’ ; Fname = gets.chomp
When you get comfortable enough to write functions, try writing one
where
you submit the string to be printed, and receive back the variable the
user
answered with.

To write a newline, you can just say puts, you don’t need the empty
string
in there.

I don’t know how long it took you to write this, but if you ran it any
decent number of times, you probably sat there tediously entering your
information over and over again. That can get frustrating, but there is
a
fairly easy way to get around such things (note this is not a widely
used
Ruby practice, and I’m not sure others would sanction it, but I find it
a
nice way to save time). In Ruby, at the end of your file, you can write
END and then you can put data down there. That data is accessible to
your program like a file inside the constant DATA. The method .gets
pulls
it’s data from the global variable $stdin, you can assign DATA to $stdin
so
that it instead pulls from the data that you have entered at the end of
your
file. This means that you can code in the values you used to have to
enter
by hand. Then later, when you want to switch it back, just comment out
the
line assigning DATA to $stdin, and it will pull from the actual standard
input, as it currently does, rather than the data at the end of your
file.
$stdin = DATA
puts “your name is #{gets.chomp} #{gets.chomp} #{gets.chomp}”
puts “you are #{gets.to_i} years old”
puts “your favourite number is #{gets.to_i}”
END
John
James
Doe
25
12

After you get more comfortable, you should move to actual testing :slight_smile: But
this is a nice simple way to automate input when you just want to test
out
an idea real fast. You can also do this from the command line, if you
are
using Mac or Linux, by writing that data in a file and using the
redirect
operator, which would look like this.
$ruby my_program.rb < my_data.txt

That is pretty much everything I can think of, so if you did everything
above, your program might look like this.
http://pastie.org/private/g4ulbnq2caxjdag5aipnag

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Omar V. [email protected]
wrote:

Ok, I have been programming for two days now. Ruby is my first
language ever. But all the books I look for already assume you have a
good deal of knowledge in programming. Does anyone know where I can get
a good basic start that will give me lots of examples?

Chris P.'s “Learn To Program” is great. The main thing is not to
skip any of the exercises.

http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/

martin

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Omar V. [email protected]
wrote:

Ok, I have been programming for two days now. Ruby is my first
language ever.

Welcome ! I hope you enjoy it.

But all the books I look for already assume you have a
good deal of knowledge in programming. Does anyone know where I can get
a good basic start that will give me lots of examples?

I’ve seen people telling good things about Chris P.s’ book:
http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/
although I haven’t read it.

Also if it is
possible can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? This is my
first program so please do not make too much fun of me. Thanks yall.

This is my program…

Program will ask for a persons personal information and then display

the results on the screen. Finally it will ask a person to give their

favourite number and then add it to their age and suggest a new

favourite number.

Your program looks fine. The only comments are idiomatic stuff:

puts ‘What is your first name?’
Fname = gets.chomp

In Ruby the convention is to use snake_case. Also names that start
with an uppercase letter are constants, so I’d do:

first_name = gets.chomp # also, don’t be afraid to have longer
variable names if they are clearer

puts ‘What is your middle name?’
Mname = gets.chomp

middle_name = gets.chomp

puts ‘What is your last name?’
Lname = gets.chomp

last_name = gets.chomp

puts ‘’

puts #no need to pass an empty string

puts ‘What is your age?’
Age = gets.chomp

age = gets.chomp

puts ‘’

puts

puts ‘What is your favourite number?’
Fnum = gets.chomp

favourite_number = gets.chomp

Also, my preference is to transform strings into integers the earliest
possible if the concept is really a number so, I’d do:

age = gets.chomp.to_i # or Integer(gets.chomp) for more strict
tranformation
favourite_number = gets.chomp.to_i

puts ’ ’

puts

puts ‘This is your information…’
puts 'You are ’ +Fname+ ’ ’ +Mname+ ’ ’ +Lname+ ‘.’
puts 'Your age is ’ +Age+ ‘.’
puts 'And your favourite number is ’ +Fnum+ ‘.’

String interpolation is preferred to concatenation (less objects to
create):

puts “This is your information…”
puts “You are #{first_name} #{middle_name} #{last_name}.”
puts “Your age is #{age}.”
puts “And your favourite number is #{favourite_number}”

C = Fnum.to_i
A = Age.to_i

not needed anymore

NFnum = C + A

new_favourite_number = favourite_number + age

puts 'Maybe, your favourite number should be ’ +NFnum+ ‘.’

puts “Maybe, your favourite number should be #{new_favourite_number}”

which by the way removes the problem you were having, since string
interpolation calls to_s automatically.

Jesus.

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