Good co-location space?

We are about to buy a server and was wondering if anyone knew of some
good co-location space that we could put the server? I know this really
isn’t rails related, but I think this post is applicable here because
generally rails developers have their own server and know more about
servers, or at least I think so.

Thanks for your help.

Voxel.net

On 9/4/06, Ben J. [email protected] wrote:

We are about to buy a server and was wondering if anyone knew of some
good co-location space that we could put the server? I know this really
isn’t rails related, but I think this post is applicable here because
generally rails developers have their own server and know more about
servers, or at least I think so.

I would help to know what city you’re in, since presumably you’d want
some amount of physical access to your hardware.

– James

James L. wrote:

On 9/4/06, Ben J. [email protected] wrote:

I am located in the NY / NJ area. I do not predict a high amount of
physical access so I don’t mind driving a couple of hours if needed.

I’m keeping this off list, as negativity in public is rarely
rewarded. :slight_smile:

Sorry to disagree, but I had a single experience there, and it was
a nightmare.

Our server had a failing RAID controller, but Voxel didn’t react
quickly, take it seriously, etc. When Compaq tech support came
out and pronounced the machine fit (even though it had rebooted
itself twice after leaving RAID controller error messages in the
system log), they refused to pull our disks and put us in a new
chassis, though we pleaded with them to do this.

Within 24 hours we had a catastrophic failure including data loss,
despite our best efforts to rsync the data off the machine on a
regular basis.

This was a fully managed server there. I cannot imagine how
unhelpful they’d be if you were simply co-locating there.

On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Ben J. wrote:

We are about to buy a server and was wondering if anyone knew of some
good co-location space that we could put the server? I know this
really
isn’t rails related, but I think this post is applicable here because
generally rails developers have their own server and know more about
servers, or at least I think so.

Hello Ben.

I saw your post and wanted to introduce you to Engine Y…

We’re a Rails specific hosting provider catering to people who want
as near to 100% reliability as is currently achievable.

As an example, for ultimate reliability, our machines boot from a
solid state (flash) boot drives that have ultra-high MTBF (mean time
between failure) specifications.

All disk storage is provided by our completely fault tolerant SAN
system.

Machines are delivered with standard Gentoo Linux distribution, fully
configured for multipath IP and access to clustered storage. We will
provide Xen DomU images customized to mount clustered storage.

We’ve also engineered fully redundant multi-master MySQL server
installations that work well in our architecture.

Your incoming HTTP requests will be load balanced between the HTTP
cluster via our central redundant load balancers.

With this configuration, you’d be able to have a complete hardware
failure on one DB machine, and one application machine, and still
handle your current load. It will also be trivial to add additional
processing resources into the mix as your traffic increases in the
future.

One of the best things about this configuration is the use of Xen
compartments to provide hassle free hardware mobility. If you want
to upgrade to more powerful boxes in the future, no problem. Want to
shift workload from one machine to another? No problem, you can do
these things WHILE THE APPLICATION IS RUNNING! It’s hard to believe
this is possible, but it is, through the magic of Xen!

The architecture that we’re implementing next week is specifically
designed to address high-availability and scalability. We’re confident
that you’ll appreciate an engineered solution to the difficulties
you’re facing, as opposed to an ad-hoc solution that would be offered
by our competitors.

I’m keeping this off list, as negativity in public is rarely
rewarded. :slight_smile:

Sorry to disagree, but I had a single experience there, and it was
a nightmare.

Our server had a failing RAID controller, but Voxel didn’t react
quickly, take it seriously, etc. When Compaq tech support came
out and pronounced the machine fit (even though it had rebooted
itself twice after leaving RAID controller error messages in the
system log), they refused to pull our disks and put us in a new
chassis, though we pleaded with them to do this.

Within 24 hours we had a catastrophic failure including data loss,
despite our best efforts to rsync the data off the machine on a
regular basis.

This was a fully managed server there. I cannot imagine how
unhelpful they’d be if you were simply co-locating there.

Tom M. wrote:

On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Ben J. wrote:

We are about to buy a server and was wondering if anyone knew of some
good co-location space that we could put the server? I know this
really
isn’t rails related, but I think this post is applicable here because
generally rails developers have their own server and know more about
servers, or at least I think so.

Hello Ben.

I saw your post and wanted to introduce you to Engine Y…

We’re a Rails specific hosting provider catering to people who want
as near to 100% reliability as is currently achievable.

As an example, for ultimate reliability, our machines boot from a
solid state (flash) boot drives that have ultra-high MTBF (mean time
between failure) specifications.

All disk storage is provided by our completely fault tolerant SAN
system.

Machines are delivered with standard Gentoo Linux distribution, fully
configured for multipath IP and access to clustered storage. We will
provide Xen DomU images customized to mount clustered storage.

We’ve also engineered fully redundant multi-master MySQL server
installations that work well in our architecture.

Your incoming HTTP requests will be load balanced between the HTTP
cluster via our central redundant load balancers.

With this configuration, you’d be able to have a complete hardware
failure on one DB machine, and one application machine, and still
handle your current load. It will also be trivial to add additional
processing resources into the mix as your traffic increases in the
future.

One of the best things about this configuration is the use of Xen
compartments to provide hassle free hardware mobility. If you want
to upgrade to more powerful boxes in the future, no problem. Want to
shift workload from one machine to another? No problem, you can do
these things WHILE THE APPLICATION IS RUNNING! It’s hard to believe
this is possible, but it is, through the magic of Xen!

The architecture that we’re implementing next week is specifically
designed to address high-availability and scalability. We’re confident
that you’ll appreciate an engineered solution to the difficulties
you’re facing, as opposed to an ad-hoc solution that would be offered
by our competitors.

I think engine yard is a great idea and I like the fact that it’s
specifically tailored to rails applications. The main reason I am
wanting to co-locate is because we get to own the hardware. We currently
pay quite a bit of money for our hosting at theplanet.com and we don’t
own a thing. I don’t mind renting space, but we have paid for our
hardware at least 3 times over. If engine yard allows me to own the
hardware then I will be more than happy to sit down with you and talk.

I have had EV1 dedicated Linux box for about 3 years now and the service
has
been amazing. great price too. Pay about 140 a month for a 2.4 Ghz P4
with
1Gb RAM and 80GB HDD. Web reboot, console, 1TB of network data transfer
per
month

Adam

Voxel.net is a good choice then, as they’re located in NY and have a
very good reputation.

NAC.net is located in NJ and also very good.

Choopa.com is in NJ but more expensive.

CRNC.net as well in NY, more expensive.

I am located in the NY / NJ area. I do not predict a high amount of
physical access so I don’t mind driving a couple of hours if needed.

After co-locating about 10 servers for 3+ years, quick physical access
is a
necessity, especially if the servers are mission critical.

~ Ben’s 2 cents…

On 9/4/06, Ben J. [email protected] wrote:

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Ben R.
303-947-0446
http://www.benr75.com

FYI, I’ve used and still use CRNC for hosting and colocation. I’ve been
very
happy with their service and highly recommend them.

Dan Matthews
LANFusion LLC
www.lanfusion.com