On 6/26/06, Tim C. [email protected] wrote:
Screw talking about it, let’s go all the way!
Let’s price fix
I say $100 an hour or no Rails work.
“CakePHP: The hottest (and cheapest) web framework of 2006.”
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 06:50:04PM -0700, Peter M. wrote:
On 6/26/06, Tim C. [email protected] wrote:
Screw talking about it, let’s go all the way!
Let’s price fix
I say $100 an hour or no Rails work.
“CakePHP: The hottest (and cheapest) web framework of 2006.”
I think you just demonstrated (or perhaps missed) Tim’s point.
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As a practical matter, price fixing is pretty darn legal everywhere
outside the US. There
was a famous case of the computer memory manufacturers price fixing.
They met regularly
outside the US and had no trouble at all until they stupidly had a
meeting in Hawaii. The
FBI got 'em. But it was a big deal for the FBI and there’s no way they
have the time and
energy to track down piddling contractors. Think how often the FBI goes
after plumbers
for overcharging. Bubkis. Software people are angels compared to
plumbers.
Warren S.
Bill wrote:
I’ve heard of law FIRMS charging as much as $500/hour.
Joe
We have a lawyer that charges $700 per hour and he’s been worth every
cent. I hear David Boies and Larry Tribe get over $1000 per hour. In
the UK it’s more per hour than the US but they bill fewer hours per
project it seems.Good work if you can get it. Pretty sure it’s not boring either.
It’s the paralegals, interns, and non-partners that do the boring work.
Joe
Warren S. wrote:
As a practical matter, price fixing is pretty darn legal everywhere
outside the US. There
was a famous case of the computer memory manufacturers price fixing.
They met regularly
outside the US and had no trouble at all until they stupidly had a
meeting in Hawaii. The
FBI got 'em. But it was a big deal for the FBI and there’s no way they
have the time and
energy to track down piddling contractors. Think how often the FBI goes
after plumbers
for overcharging. Bubkis. Software people are angels compared to
plumbers.Warren S.
And much more pleasant to deal with too. When’s the last time you walked
by a developer working and went -eeeewwwwwwww! Coder’s-Crack, I didn’t
need to see that…
Changing the topic a bit: What’s the best way to get freelance work?
I’d like to start dipping my toe in the freelancing waters, perhaps
leading to full-time eventually, but I have no idea how to start. Just
start a blog and they will come? Rentacoder.com?
Steve
Is this really being ‘pretty darn legal’ or just being outside of the
scope of US law? Price fixing (with the exception of published books
- a protectionist measure) is quite illegal in the UK and the EU
unless I am very much mistaken.
Six cement companies were prosecuted, convicted and fined the
equivalent of EUR 250 Million for price fixing in the 90s. Their
fines were reduced but they were still in the EUR 100 million
bracket. Nintendo had been fined 150 million euros for price fixing,
VW 31 million, BASF fined the equivalent of $250 million for fixing
the price of vitamins.
That lot just from one quick google trawl. British Airways are
currently under investigation for allegedly attempting to fix the
price of the airline fuel surcharge.
If this were a mailing list of directors of european firms who
together operated in “monopolistic competition” in some niche, and we
discussed fixing prices then appeared to profit from doing so, I have
little doubt that an investigation could ensue.
The point is, we would have to stand to demonstrably gain in ways
that we would not have done, absent the discussions. Conditions to do
so don’t exist here, not least because there are at least in theory
alternatives to using Rails and Rails developers.
In theory. 
MikeStephen M. [email protected] writes:
Changing the topic a bit: What’s the best way to get freelance work?
I’d like to start dipping my toe in the freelancing waters, perhaps
leading to full-time eventually, but I have no idea how to start. Just
start a blog and they will come? Rentacoder.com?
Yeah, good question.
Will be interesting to know the experience of other people around here.
IMO the bids at Rentacoder.com are generally very rock bottom, and I
definitely cannot work at such low rates.
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Hi,
I wouldn’t got for RentAcoder.com, the rates are too low… buyers
there
doesn’t want to spend good money but want to spend a little for a lot of
work. I would suggest www.getacoder.com which average $300+ along with
$20-$100.
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