Dojo with Rails

Rails
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Hello Group,

I am a PHP programmer eager to use Rails. I want to know weather there
is any tutorials on how to use Dojo with Rails? I checked out d-rails
Google Group, it was in mess! It gives me a impression that d-rails is
dead. Is there there any good and possibly easy and reliable way to
use Dojo in Rails?

Regards
A.K.Karthikeyan

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Hey Karthikeyan,
Rails has some pretty cool JS libraries that you can use without
writing too much JS…
Unless you have a compelling reason for using dojo - my advice would
be to try and use
rails js support - and personally, I’d like to stay away from JS
writing as much as possible,
Regards,
Kashyap

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Karthikeyan [email protected]
wrote:

A.K.Karthikeyan

–
Regards,
Kashyap

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C K Kashyap wrote:

Hey Karthikeyan,
Rails has some pretty cool JS libraries that you can use without
writing too much JS…
Unless you have a compelling reason for using dojo - my advice would
be to try and use
rails js support - and personally, I’d like to stay away from JS
writing as much as possible,

Unfortunately, that will pretty much guarantee suboptimal code. For
almost anything nontrivial, it is probably worth writing your own JS.

Regards,
Kashyap

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Karthikeyan [email protected]
wrote:

A.K.Karthikeyan

–
Regards,
Kashyap

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

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Unfortunately, that will pretty much guarantee suboptimal code. For
almost anything nontrivial, it is probably worth writing your own JS.

Optimization is a game of compromises I’d say - you have
readability/maintainability/speed of development on one hand and
“performance” of the code itself on the other - timing/memory etc.

If I understand it right, ruby language and rails framework tends to
weight the first category more - and that is where my advice comes
from.

But you are right…if you know for sure that you are going to run a
particular version of a particular browser, you might as well spend
all the time to figure out all the JS special functions provided by
that JS engine and squeeze out every bit of power.

Regards,
Kashyap

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I like that no one actually answered this question and started talking
about javascript optimization instead.

I’m just bumping this, as I would be interested in knowing the same
thing
as the OP, if anyone has as clue.

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C K Kashyap wrote:

Unfortunately, that will pretty much guarantee suboptimal code. �For
almost anything nontrivial, it is probably worth writing your own JS.

Optimization is a game of compromises I’d say - you have
readability/maintainability/speed of development on one hand and
“performance” of the code itself on the other - timing/memory etc.

I wasn’t talking about performance optimization, but rather about
general code quality and maintainability.

If I understand it right, ruby language and rails framework tends to
weight the first category more - and that is where my advice comes
from.

But you are right…if you know for sure that you are going to run a
particular version of a particular browser, you might as well spend
all the time to figure out all the JS special functions provided by
that JS engine and squeeze out every bit of power.

That’s not what I meant either. Rather, I meant that too many Rails
devs assume that the framework will free them from writing JS. It
won’t. Take a look at the crappy JS that Rails helpers produce, along
with the fact that writing straight JS is often easier and it will
quickly become obvious why Rails’ helpers aren’t worth the effort,
except in the simplest cases (where they can be quite useful indeed).

Regards,
Kashyap

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]