DEV Laptop : Ubuntu or Centos , Netbeans or Eclipse?


#1

After doing some playing around RoR ,now is time to make it real and
start making money…

The target for now is to make simple website and get used to new
tecnology
(Github , capistrano and so on)

Now I need to install the new DEV machine but …

Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm)
Netbeans or Eclipse

Which combination is better ?


#2

Better is in the eye of the beholder, but I’m using Ubuntu running
NetBeans
as we speak, and I have no (major) complaints. Though I will admit that
I
only use NetBeans as a glorified editor - basically just for its syntax
highlighting and occasionally for refactoring features which are pretty
nice.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Simone R.
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#3

Simone R. wrote:

Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm)

Ubuntu has much better user interface tuning. Centos (correct me whether
or not
I’m wrong) still has lots of miserable Unix-style glitches, such as a

key that prints garbage in various apps - like MacOSX.

Netbeans or Eclipse

Get them both and just see which one you keep using!


Phlip


#4

I have tried these IDEs on Windows: - RubyMine

  • Aptana Studio
  • NetBeans

Also coded a while without any IDE but I need the debug feature.

I recently switched to NetBeans on Ubuntu and it’s better than anything
before, especially because Ruby on Linux is much faster. And, both are
free
of charge!

With ‘Eclipse’ you mean Aptana Studio? Because I couldn’t get the
RadRails
plugin to work with Eclipse, at least not on Windows.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Simone R.
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#5

+1 vote for Ubuntu, and I use the straight Eclipse Ganymede with the
Ruby language added in.

But as mentioned before, it is very much a personal preference as to
editor.


#6

Ar Chron wrote:

But as mentioned before, it is very much a personal preference as to
editor.

I’m starting form nothing (I was working on Dreamweaver and Notepad++
before) , I did some coding on Netbeans but I’m not glued to it , I just
need some with the best integration with RoR , github and capistrano.

But I have no idea which one is better


#7

that’s a very personal decision. you gotta try and decide for
yourself.

personally i’ve been working on mac/textmate for a while and switched
back to suse/kate which is a very good combination for me. my
coworkers are using ubuntu/netbeans though.


#8

Simone R. wrote:
[…]

Now I need to install the new DEV machine but …

Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm)

I would definitely go with Ubuntu. You might also check if your laptop
will do a decent job with Mac OS X – many will.

Netbeans or Eclipse

Neither (granted, I’ve never used NetBeans). Try jEdit. I’ve got some
setup info on my blog; since I don’t want to linkspam this forum, check
out my other posts about jEdit.

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
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http://www.marnen.org


#9

Ubuntu + Vim. Give it a shot, and if you don’t like it, then try
something else. That’s the beauty of the choices you have listed …
they are all free and you can try them out and find out what works
best for you.

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#10

Simone R. wrote:

Now I need to install the new DEV machine but …

Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm)

Ubuntu is more functional and integrated for the desktop out of the box.
CentOS is Red Hat Enterprise Linux in disguise, which is awesome for
servers but for which desktops have not been a focus point for a while.
Recently, RHEL has announced a “return to the desktop” but this will
likely not materialize in the CentOS/RHEL 5 series.

Netbeans or Eclipse

NetBeans can be flunky with regards to output windows (how to reopen a
Mongrel window after its been accidentally closed?), has a really slow
CSS editor, and has poor syntax parsing. But when I recently tried
Aptana Studio it wouldn’t even launch on a fresh install, and the latest
release of RadRails isn’t compatible with Eclipse 3.4. That pretty much
sways the decision in favor of NetBeans.


Roderick van Domburg
http://www.nedforce.nl


#11

José Tiburcio Ribeiro N. wrote:

I would recommend you Fedora 10 for desktop and server configurations.

What’s the difference between Fedora and CentOS?


#12

Well,

RHEL is built upon Fedora, and CentOS is built upon RHEL public SRPMS.

I think that’s the main difference or equivalence =)

I’m just used to Fedora and like it a lot for deploying Rails
applications.


#13

Hi there!

I would recommend you Fedora 10 for desktop and server configurations.

If you have a Mac available, then use TextMate for developing.

If not, do it under vim (with vim-rails plugin, by Tim Pope) or emacs
(following the PeepCode screencast about it).

On the IDE side, I prefer Netbeans.

But remember, you have two powered open-source editor to the job. So,
use them.

Hope you can find your way…

Cheers!


#14

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Simone R. <
removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

I’m starting form nothing (I was working on Dreamweaver and Notepad++
before) , I did some coding on Netbeans but I’m not glued to it , I just
need some with the best integration with RoR , github and capistrano.

Better is whatever gets the job done for you. The good news is that
you’re
talking about free SW, so you can try each variant for a week or so with
minimal risk of lock-in, and compare. (Ultimately though, you should
understand that the option that you take the time to get used to will
probably be the best one.)

As for tool integration, I would encourage you try things like git,
Capistrano, Rails generators and console, etc. out from the command line
as
you get started. The act of reading man pages and typing in the
specific
options you want will give you a better understanding of the tools.
Then if
you still feel that using a full IDE will give you some productivity
boost,
go ahead and do it.

BTW, I haven’t checked in a bit, but I’m fairly sure neither option you
mentioned is going to give you git integration… Not sure my info is
up to
date though, so someone correct me if you’ve heard otherwise.


#15

+1 for Ubuntu. A friend of mine said he had a lot of trouble getting
git installed on CentOS 5…I think he even gave up on it.

+1 for RubyMine. I migrated from Aptana Studio to RubyMine and I think
I’m sold. Aptana is just too bloated for my liking. RubyMine has great
code validations and helpers. I’ve also briefly used Netbeans…I’d go
back to it before Aptana. Also, you can try RubyMine for 90 days after
installation…fyi.

http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/index.html


#16

José Netto wrote:

RHEL is built upon Fedora, and CentOS is built upon RHEL public SRPMS.

To be more precise, Federa is something of a playground for RHEL. Some
items may be included in RHEL, other items may not be depending on how
the experiment turned out.


Roderick van Domburg
http://www.nedforce.nl