Dealing with TFS

Hi

How do you guys deal with TFS?

My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of
course as it’s a .NET shop.
As you’re well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files
as
read-only and AFAIK there isn’t an easy way to make it detect new files
short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new
files.
When you’re on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean there
are
quite a few files that need to be added.

What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in
a
while make it sync with TFS?

Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nz
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)

I know some people who like “tfpt online” (from TFS Power
Toolshttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FBD14EEA-781F-45A1-8C46-9F6BA2F68BF0&displaylang=en)
for the purpose of adding a bunch of new files to a preexisting
enlistment. I’ve never used it myself.

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto
Carrero
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:28 AM
To: ironruby-core
Subject: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS

Hi

How do you guys deal with TFS?

My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of
course as it’s a .NET shop.
As you’re well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files
as read-only and AFAIK there isn’t an easy way to make it detect new
files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new
files. When you’re on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean
there are quite a few files that need to be added.

What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in
a while make it sync with TFS?

Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nz
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)

We’ve got a couple of people using the TFS->SVN bridge, which I think is
made by the codeplex guys. It’s SLOW, but it works well for them, as
they’re on smaller projects.

Tfpt online is nice for that purpose. tf folderdiff . /r (recursive on
this directory) is another way to detect changes, but it’s a pain since
it re-syncs everytime you make a change. Rails would make it hard, but a
few other options I can think of to help:

a) If it’s a new project, maybe Codeplex’s new Mercurial support
can convince them to use something different

b) I can help you get setup to sync Git with TFS like we do for
IronRuby. It’s a bit of a kludge right now, but it works. Jimmy and I
are both trying to make it better, but neither of us have the time yet.

c) Write a plugin for rails that hooks into the generator’s SCM
support (-g and –s options) to add and edit files as it works.

One other thing I have for working within TFS. I map :w to :w! (to
overwrite read-only files). And I have defined te and ta
which simply call :!tf edit % and :!tf add %. The percent expands to the
current file. Whenever I touch a file I run this command, of course,
this requires you to launch vim from a command line that has TF in the
path.

JD

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curt
Hagenlocher
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS

I know some people who like “tfpt online” (from TFS Power
Toolshttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FBD14EEA-781F-45A1-8C46-9F6BA2F68BF0&displaylang=en)
for the purpose of adding a bunch of new files to a preexisting
enlistment. I’ve never used it myself.

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto
Carrero
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:28 AM
To: ironruby-core
Subject: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS

Hi

How do you guys deal with TFS?

My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of
course as it’s a .NET shop.
As you’re well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files
as read-only and AFAIK there isn’t an easy way to make it detect new
files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new
files. When you’re on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean
there are quite a few files that need to be added.

What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in
a while make it sync with TFS?

Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nz
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)

svnbridge doesn’t work with rubymine or git-svn but it does with
tortoise
etc.

The source control needs to work from within the environment, at least
that’s what the boss told me.

this looks promising too with a few rake tasks perhaps:
http://jeroen.haegebaert.com/post/2008/08/23/Dealing-with-the-quirks-of-TFS-using-git-take-2

I’ll check out the ironruby source code too on how you do it.


Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nz
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)

I’ve not gone through the full post, but based on the title this might
help:
http://richardsbraindump.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-get-git-and-tfs-working-together.html

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jimmy S. <

That blogpost is basically all Jim and I would want to do – wrap the GIT
and TFS command-lines. A step above that would be to use grit (GIT
implementation in Ruby … or even Git#) as well as the TFS APIs. But as
Jim said, we haven’t found the time to make this really nice, so I
welcome anyone else to do so.

As a starter, here’s my notes on using TFS and GIT together; it’d be
great to just get some easy-to-use scripts to wrap this up:
http://gist.github.com/286677

~Jimmy

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto
Carrero
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS

svnbridge doesn’t work with rubymine or git-svn but it does with
tortoise etc.

The source control needs to work from within the environment, at least
that’s what the boss told me.

this looks promising too with a few rake tasks perhaps:
http://jeroen.haegebaert.com/post/2008/08/23/Dealing-with-the-quirks-of-TFS-using-git-take-2

I’ll check out the ironruby source code too on how you do it.


Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nz
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Orion E.
<[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve got a couple of people using the TFS->SVN bridge, which I think is
made by the codeplex guys. It’s SLOW, but it works well for them, as
they’re on smaller projects.

On 24/01/2010, at 4:28 AM, Ivan Porto C. wrote:

Hi

How do you guys deal with TFS?

My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of
course as it’s a .NET shop.
As you’re well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files
as read-only and AFAIK there isn’t an easy way to make it detect new
files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new
files. When you’re on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean
there are quite a few files that need to be added.

What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in
a while make it sync with TFS?

Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations
Ivan Porto C.
Blog: http://flanders.co.nzhttp://flanders.co.nz/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim
Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)


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