On 15 Mar 2009, at 00:30, Josh C. wrote:
That sounds like a great way to avoid the instance variable.
Why is a named record preferable to an instance variable? It seems
like the coupling between steps is the same, but the coupled state is
stored differently. Maybe that’s the point - stored differently.
I guess my view is that having the state out front in the scenario is
preferable whenever possible (without cluttering up the feature with
noise) because it’s clear, and there’s less risk of a gap opening up
between what the step appears to do given its name, and what it
actually does when it runs. I take this gap seriously because I put a
great deal of trust our features.
boolean attributes of a policy, but it doesn’t read so well.
I don’t think that’s nasty, it seems entirely appropriate for that
type of problem. It sounds like the type of acceptance tests I hear
people like Keith Braithwaite talking about putting together for
traders using Excel and Fit, and they seem to work really well.
Thinking about this some more though, maybe there’s an argument for
breaking the feature up into multiple features, and using Background
to set up the common state of the objects, then have a few scenarios
that build on this with different steps to tweak the objects. Just
another idea - it’s really hard to judge without seeing more of the
“With …” would mean steps that were coupled to the “last mentioned
thing”. That seems like a different kind of coupling - there is only
one piece of state involved (the last thing) rather than a map of
named things. But it’s less explicit and implies that the “last thing”
needs to be updated by each step that mentions things.
I know what you mean, and it would certainly make for nice readable
scenarios. My worry is how maintainable the steps would be in the long
run. I’m used to seeing steps like this:
Given /the Policy has a secondary risk/ do
Policy.count.should == 1
policy = Policy.first
policy.secondary_risk = true
Which are pretty explicit and leave no room for accidental abuse. What
the OP suggested would give you something more like this:
Given /a Policy/ do
@it = Factory(:policy)
With /a secondary risk/ do
@it.secondary_risk = true
I dunno actually. Now I type it out it doesn’t seem so bad
Matt, going back to Mark’s example, it sounds like you lean towards
the latter (i.e. repeat 'Reach from the Stars for ‘Halo 3’ throughout
the scenario). Is that correct?
I guess my heuristic is something like this:
If I can simply refer to “the Widget” then I do, wherever possible.
If some attribute of the Widget is important in the scenario, I’ll
explicitly set that attribute, and mention it again later in the
Given a Widget named “Foo”
When I delete the Widget
Then I should see the text “bye bye Foo”
If I have to refer to multiple objects of the same class in one
scenario, then I use names to differentiate between them. e.g.
Given some Widgets named “Foo, Bar”
When I delete the Widget “Foo”
Then I should see 1 Widget
And I should see the text “Bar”