Convince me to buy TextMate!

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On 4/17/06, Joe [email protected] wrote:

I DO use version control. On the server. I don’t feel like checking out
locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works.

You’d gain from learning about Capistrano and getting it running.

Locally:

  • Check out
  • Edit
  • Test locally
  • commit
  • run “cap deploy”

done.

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Well…

TextMate is not in any ways lightyears before any other editor. But as
a text editor it just feels nicer than most. BBEdit has great power
but you have to have an Phd in BBedit usage to be able to find it all.
The features like bookmarking folding levels are available elsewhere
but in TM it just feels natural and accessible.

And yes some of the others have snippets and macros but TextMate seems
to do it nicer. And I have not tested this much in the other editors
but the tab jumping after you inserted the snippet seems to be much
better that the others have. For example after you have inserted with
autocomplete the line

in the beginning all of the id=“” is
selected for if you need to remove it. But press tab again and the
cursor moves to inside the “”. It’s not an amazing feature but TM is
full of these little things that just feel natural.

So. TextMate embodies the power of Rails. Power without complexity
unless complexity is needed.

On 4/17/06, Joe [email protected] wrote:

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James L. wrote:

On 4/17/06, Joe [email protected] wrote:

I DO use version control. On the server. I don’t feel like checking out
locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works.

You’d gain from learning about Capistrano and getting it running.

Locally:

  • Check out
  • Edit
  • Test locally
  • commit
  • run “cap deploy”

done.

I’m not interested in maintaining identical installations of Postgresql,
Lighty, Mongrel, Ruby, Rails, etc. on two machines, if that’s what that
entails.

Joe

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I also tried TextMate… and it just didn’t see what made it any
different
than JEdit. Radrails is pretty solid when you want a bigger IDE. I go
back
and forth.

I just can’t stand paying for something when I can get something
extremely
similar for free.

I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor. Something just seems
wrong about that… no matter how nifty it is. Its still used in many
programming books as “learn to program by writing… a simple text
editor!”

/me is biased.

-hampton.

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On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Hampton wrote:

I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor.

Basic?

Its still used in many programming books as “learn to program by
writing… a simple text editor!”

TextMate is decidedly not “simple text editor”.

P.S. How many man-hours have gone into emacs? If writing a
text editor was simple, it should have been “done” a
long time ago, right?

P.P.S. I’m cheap too. However, there are many ways to be
cheap. I bought TextMate because it allowed me to
make more money in less time. Being cheap with time
is the ultimate form of cheap. :slight_smile:

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– Tom M.

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On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Joe wrote:

  • Edit
    entails.
    It doesn’t entail that at all.

You can use any DB, including Pg, MySQL, even SQLite, and script/server
is all you need for a web server.

It’s well worth it. Take our words for it. :slight_smile:

–
– Tom M.

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Hampton wrote:

I also tried TextMate… and it just didn’t see what made it any
different
than JEdit. Radrails is pretty solid when you want a bigger IDE. I go
back
and forth.

I just can’t stand paying for something when I can get something
extremely
similar for free.

I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor. Something just seems
wrong about that… no matter how nifty it is. Its still used in many
programming books as “learn to program by writing… a simple text
editor!”

/me is biased.

-hampton.

Wow, JEdit seems to have a lot of stuff! I’m checking it out now.

For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support. It appears such is planned for
RadRails 0.7, which in itself seems to be shaping up to be quite an IDE.

Using NFS with editors appears to be too painful. And at my current
location, the firewall is blocking mount.

Joe

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On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Joe wrote:

For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support.

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– Tom M.

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Tom M. wrote:

On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Joe wrote:

For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support.

Transmit: Editing on a remote server | 43 Folders

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– Tom M.

Ah, thanks. I tried Cyberduck (free!) and it offers remote editing too.

Joe