Convert to Wordpress?

#1

Hi everyone,

Is there any easy way to convert from Typo to WP, either directly or
via some XML format or something? I’ve noticed several blogs migrating
away from Typo, and I was just wondering if there’s an automated
process for it…

Thanks,

Mike

#2

On 15 Jun 2006, at 12:31, Mike P. wrote:

Is there any easy way to convert from Typo to WP, either directly or
via some XML format or something? I’ve noticed several blogs migrating
away from Typo, and I was just wondering if there’s an automated
process for it…

If you have only a few posts then you could use the RSS importer that
Wordpress has. Otherwise no. Not that it’s difficult … just
somebody hasn’t wrote the script yet.

Unless it’s a secret I haven’t come across :wink:

Gary

#3

Mike P. a écrit :

Hi everyone,

Is there any easy way to convert from Typo to WP, either directly or
via some XML format or something? I’ve noticed several blogs migrating
away from Typo, and I was just wondering if there’s an automated
process for it…

Thanks,

Mike

Hello Mike,
Wordpress offers import from several blog engines, and from RSS feed.
There also might exist an import script somewhere. After all, there IS
an import script to switch from Wordpress to Typo, the one I used when I
moved to Typo.

I’ll add some thoughts about why people shall switch from Typo to
Wordpress, in other words what normal (non geek) people may think Typo
lacks.

  • A decent antispam. Wordpress has a really powerful one, easy to
    install, and really tough to pass through (never happened to me)
  • Lots of themes and plugins, with dedicated sites.
  • A support forum with an active community to answer your questions.
  • A riche text editor (TinyMCE)
  • A very nice text filter engine that displays posts the way they’re
    typoed (with line breaks and paragraphes without using html).
  • A lot of things you need to manually do with Typo.

I do think the 3 first are what Typo really lacks.

Cheers,
Frederic


Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
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#4

Okay, thanks.

I have about 200 posts, plus a whackload of comments. I’ll write my
importer in php and then share it if it’s clean enough.

As for reasons, it’s not particularly anything you listed, but rather,

  1. Typo development has all but ceased, and my current version (1055)
    has several glaring bugs surrounding publishing. The biggest of these
    is that re-saving a draft sends an article live–a completely absurd
    behaviour.

  2. I can’t afford the time and money required to run a dedicated
    server. I hate to be snide about it, but after checking around a
    number of forums, I can’t find a single shared hosting environment
    where people are reliably running Typo and not having problems with
    load or 500s or fastcgi or whatever.

Wordpress has that whole Just Works factor, and as much as I’ve
learned about Rails, I know a good deal more about hacking PHP.

Mike

#5

Typo is loosing some users with its strange devel process.
I explain…
few guy are doing a really good job on typo dev, but everything (but
nothing) is on the trac, releasing patches (yes we can look at the
source,
I know) but nobody wants to go ahead with a typosphere announcing a
“coming soon” message for several month now, a dead typogarden project!

Some people don’t want to hear it but perhaps the good thing to do is to
create a REALLY ATTRACTIVE wiki with details on installing, configuring
typo, and themes…
and some info on programming stuff (API, classes,etc…)

Typo helped me to discover RoR and I’m addicted but sometimes people
need
to see sparkling things to discover the real beauty!

Regards

#6

On 6/15/06, Mike P. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

Okay, thanks.

I have about 200 posts, plus a whackload of comments. I’ll write my
importer in php and then share it if it’s clean enough.

Hi Mike,

Please consider sharing it even if it’s not clean. Chances are that
someone will still find it pretty useful and might even clean it up
for you. :slight_smile: This thread came up with spooky timing for me, considering
that I was right in the middle of trying to figure out how to migrate
my posts over from typo to wordpress myself.

I did go with the RSS importer (set to 1000 posts in the RSS feed),
and modified my WP permalink URLs to include the ‘/archive/’ part. It
seemed to work surprisingly well, except that some of the pubDates in
the feed seem to have been parsed wrong, resulting in the occasional
permalink that off by a day. I’m in the process of fixing them by hand
now in MySQL. I figured I would just write a quickie ruby +
active_record script to bring the comments in later on.

I guess one advantage of using using the RSS importer is that you
don’t have to deal with textile or markdown - it just imports straight
html.

-Pawel

#7

On 15 Jun 2006, at 14:30, Frédéric de Villamil wrote:

Just install a support forum first. And have people to answer
questions.
And a page listing resources at first.

www.typoforums.org fits that bill.

G

#8

cedric a écrit :

and some info on programming stuff (API, classes,etc…)

Typo helped me to discover RoR and I’m addicted but sometimes people need
to see sparkling things to discover the real beauty!

Regards

Just install a support forum first. And have people to answer questions.
And a page listing resources at first.

And then code :slight_smile:


Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
http://t37.net http://fredericdevillamil.com
removed_email_address@domain.invalid tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337

#9

On Jun 15, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Gary S. wrote:

On 15 Jun 2006, at 14:30, Frédéric de Villamil wrote:

Just install a support forum first. And have people to answer
questions.
And a page listing resources at first.

www.typoforums.org fits that bill.

Maybe it should be linked from the typosphere.org homepage.


Josh S.
http://blog.hasmanythrough.com

#10

Gary you’re true, but many of tips discovered by typo users just stay on
this mailing-list, and nobody seems to be attracted to put something on
this forum (I don’t know why!)

A look to wordpress.org can give some clues (on the first page there’s a
link to almost everything!)

Yes I am a bit focused on WP (even if I don’t use it) but it was a
little
project that has grown because it was accessible. And I’m sure that typo
is also a very good project for many people interested in ruby, rails,
cms, etc…

the comparison could be like Debian & Ubuntu, same roots but Ubuntu
looks
pretty!

#11

Gary S. a écrit :

On 15 Jun 2006, at 14:30, Frédéric de Villamil wrote:

Just install a support forum first. And have people to answer
questions.
And a page listing resources at first.

www.typoforums.org fits that bill.

Too bad there’s no link on typosphere.org homepage…


Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
http://t37.net http://fredericdevillamil.com
removed_email_address@domain.invalid tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337

#12

Gary S. a écrit :

or whether there wasn’t a need for it … probably more of the former
I guess now.

I’d say people are just too busy to put a info in Trac … which
leans more towards development sometimes. I should really write up
what I’ve learned and put it there though…

What would be the main things that people want to see covered …
just for the record?

G

I might be stupid, but I don’t see why Typo support forum is not on the
same domain as the sources, the track or on a subdomain ?

I mean, having :

http://support.typosphere.org
http://themes.typosphere.org
http://plugins.typosphere.org

with propoer links from everywhere to everywhere would have much more
sense IMHO.

1/ people would find things much more easily
2/ typo and everything related would get a better google ranking
3/ it’s just sounds logical to do this way, isn’t it ?

I know every open source project has its good and bad times, but I fear
typo is really dying, and it’s a pity, because it’s a good project that
should be really amazing.


Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
http://t37.net http://fredericdevillamil.com
removed_email_address@domain.invalid tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337

#13

On 15 Jun 2006, at 15:20, cedric wrote:

Gary you’re true, but many of tips discovered by typo users just
stay on
this mailing-list, and nobody seems to be attracted to put
something on
this forum (I don’t know why!)

Josh, Frédéric and yourself are certainly right. I wondered whether
the lack of use of the Typo forums was because it wasn’t well known
or whether there wasn’t a need for it … probably more of the former
I guess now.

I’d say people are just too busy to put a info in Trac … which
leans more towards development sometimes. I should really write up
what I’ve learned and put it there though…

What would be the main things that people want to see covered …
just for the record?

G

#14

Gary S. a écrit :

typo is really dying, and it’s a pity, because it’s a good project
It’ll get moving again. It’s just a pause.

G

I know this, I’m doing rails myself, and I don’t have time to code my
own stuffs so… that’s why I was talking about good and bad times.
People have been doing great work on Typo, and I’m really glad with
this.


Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
http://t37.net http://fredericdevillamil.com
removed_email_address@domain.invalid tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337

#15

On 15 Jun 2006, at 16:18, Frédéric de Villamil wrote:

I might be stupid, but I don’t see why Typo support forum is not on
the
same domain as the sources, the track or on a subdomain ?

The simplest answer is that Typoforum.org is run by different people
to Typosphere.

I know every open source project has its good and bad times, but I
fear
typo is really dying, and it’s a pity, because it’s a good project
that
should be really amazing.

I wouldn’t say it’s dying. Just that there hasn’t been a changeset
for a while. But there was only really Piers working on it and he’s
probably tied up with real life work. Scott was working on the 4.0
release but again is probably tied up with other Rails work. Don’t
judge it as you would a PHP project - because there aren’t that many
rails coders that have tonnes of time for open source.

It’ll get moving again. It’s just a pause.

G

#16

On 6/15/06, Gary S. removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

I know every open source project has its good and bad times, but I
rails coders that have tonnes of time for open source.

It’ll get moving again. It’s just a pause.

G


Typo-list mailing list
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http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

If someone could just get something stable enough to release as a 4.0
release candidate, so people have some to track beyond SVN revisions,
it would make a big difference.

Also, the lack of proper trackback/pingback support when its near a
4.0 version needs to fixed, priority #1. Thats just essential blog
functionality and really needs to be there.

#17

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:50:52 -0500, “Rob S.” removed_email_address@domain.invalid
wrote:


Typo-list mailing list
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http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

If someone could just get something stable enough to release as a 4.0
release candidate, so people have some to track beyond SVN revisions,
it would make a big difference.

Bingo – I have two Typo sites that I run right now, externally they
look/work great, but internally both have issues that I haven’t been
able to solved. One site can’t add/edit ‘Pages’ at all (Application
Error (Rails) while my site displays that problem on some pages, but
then late last week all of a sudden I couldn’t post! Svn update doesn’t
help so I’m just in a lurch while I think of what to do. If we had 4.0
we would have a fresh slate to build on, and trust me, if I got my sites
up on 4.0, they’d stay there for a time; I really love the blog Typo has
allowed me to create, but lately it’s just been too much work to keep
running.

I really do appreciate all the efforts, this is a great system, I just
would like to have it ‘just work’ for a longer period of time.

P

Also, the lack of proper trackback/pingback support when its near a
4.0 version needs to fixed, priority #1. Thats just essential blog
functionality and really needs to be there.

  • rob


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#18

I would think that it should be pretty natural simply to set up a Typo
installation at http://www.typosphere.org and have recent changes blog
there or something.

On 6/15/06, cedric removed_email_address@domain.invalid wrote:

and some info on programming stuff (API, classes,etc…)
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http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

#19

I was originally attracted to Typo because it was lean … supermodel
lean and it was built to work with a blog editor. Perfect in my
book. No backend bloat. It also used Rails which was an interesting
framework to learn. It’s still only around a year old though and to
be honest it’s not the best thing since sliced bread and I don’t
understand that opinion. It does exactly the same as every other
blog system - in fact it’s a lot less stable and I’d count something
like Textpattern far more superior. If you want something stable
with lots of lovely looking themes then Typo isn’t the best choice.
It’s probably a good idea to look elsewhere. Typo was originally
written while waiting for a meeting to start and less than a handful
of developers have got it to where it is at the moment. You can’t
compare that history against some of the other more established engines.

I use it to play with Rails. I know it’s unstable sometimes and I
accept that because I live on trunk for Typo and Rails.

Hmmm … that’s probably the worst attitude to have because I have a
few thousand posts to my blog.

4.0 was only waiting for a better installation process from Scott.
There’s not going to be anything very different from trunk in a point
release (unless I’m very mistaken). A lot of the problems can be
attributed to host set-ups and the Rails version you are working
from. I don’t have very high expectations for 4.0 solving every
problem … I think some people do though.

There might be disappointment.

Having thought about it though … typosphere is becoming a real joke
as a frontend to the Typo world. Mebbe some more time should be
spent hanging around typoforum…

Gary

#20

Gary S. wrote:

I was originally attracted to Typo because it was lean … supermodel
lean and it was built to work with a blog editor.

I was originally attracted to Typo because it wasn’t written in PHP.

I’m still open to alternatives, as long as they’re not written in PHP.

mathew