Computer Language Popularity Trend

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Xah
[email protected]
â?? http://xahlee.org/

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

Hi Xah (Sigma) Lee,

What’s the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups? It is
interesting research, I suppose, if you’re into that sort of thing
(numbers for the sake of numbers); but what does it have to do with us?

Regards,
Jordan

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 [email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Xah
[email protected]
â?? http://xahlee.org/

hi xah-

i’m glad you’re up to something constructive. this is actually pretty
interesting.

thanks.

-a

In article [email protected],
[email protected] says…

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

While this “survey” is clearly off-topic and nonsensical, the site is at
least entertaining in one respect. Anybody who can accuse others of
intolerance, then describe a city as “sordid…by the standards of
RIGHTEOUS MEN” [emphasis added], and THEN include pages full of pictures
of porn stars certainly has a personality anyway!


Later,
Jerry.

The universe is a figment of its own imagination.

[email protected] wrote:

[email protected]
â?? http://xahlee.org/

hi xah-

i’m glad you’re up to something constructive. this is actually pretty
interesting.

thanks.

-a
Yeah … except it makes no attempt to cover both (Common) Lisp and
Scheme, and it doesn’t have Forth. :frowning:

Chung Leong wrote:

â?? http://xahlee.org/

These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he’s not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.

Yup … it’s unscientific but fun. On the other hand, a pretty good
indicator is to go to a non-technical bookstore and measure
shelf-inches of books in the programming language section. Up until this
year, that metric showed Ruby as almost non-existent.

This metric does fail for Javascript, though. Shelf inches for
Javascript are usually much lower than the usage of Javascript, mostly
because there aren’t many books about Javascript.

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Xah
[email protected]
â?? http://xahlee.org/

These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he’s not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.

MonkeeSage wrote:

What’s the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups?

He’s a troll.

Brian

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual

Ah, it’s been a while since I had a chance to plonk you.

Brian

| These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
| postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of
the
| information about it on the internet.

This would be true in a rational world.

A lot of people post on the ml without thinking asking fro arguments
that can be easly found by googling.

See:

- http://www.google.com/trends?q=ruby
- http://www.google.com/trends?q=perl&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

That could integrate scientifically those stats.


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jmcgill wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript

Hasn’t it annoyed enough groups already?

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

What a pile of crud.

keep whacking the mole buddy!

regards
Andy Little

[email protected] wrote:

Hasn’t it annoyed enough groups already?

It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.

Of course, that’s not a sound research method.

jmcgill said the following on 9/27/2006 1:31 PM:

[email protected] wrote:

This page gives a visual report of computer languages’s popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript

Yeah, everybody knows that Java is a programming language and Javascript
isn’t, right?

In comp.lang.c jmcgill [email protected] wrote:

It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.

Only because (I presume) you haven’t seen Xah Lee’s drivel posted
previously. The charm wears thin rather quickly.

On 9/27/06, jmcgill [email protected] wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

Hasn’t it annoyed enough groups already?

It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.

Of course, that’s not a sound research method.

Well I did learn something new. I never realized what PHP stood for.

The code itself ain’t so pretty though.


Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.

For example, a good 25% of the “C” related discussions seem to be about
forgetting to allocate memoiry for a char * variable. Another 20%
regarding forgetting to read the ending “\n” with scanf().

Another 25% regarding seg faults due to the many ways of getting these
in C if you don’t know exactly what you’re doing.

On 9/29/06, Ancient_Hacker [email protected] wrote:

Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.

Hard to say… for example php-general is just as high traffic as
ruby-talk.

The graphs remind me of the Staples TV commercial that shows in the
U.S. To save money the office drone has a cat sitting there
paw-painting his presentation pie charts. Oy…

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