Amplifier

Hello, i’m working in a private project with USRP 1 and OpenBTS on PCS
1900MHZ.

Currently im working with chinesse (Ledmate.net) 25 dbm amplifier and
duplexer for pcs 1900,
this works, but i having problems in some areas, i can’t register any
phones.

Can anybody tell me what is the best amplifiers brand for use in this
project ?,
i need to full extend the coverage area.

My current configuration is

USRP1+clock tamer > PCS 25dbm amplifier > PCS duplexer > antenna (yagi
or omni 9dbi)

I need any other component? i’m planing to change the amplifier, what is
the best and
what better power for full extent coverage and work fine?

I wait your news

Thanks in advance

Regards

Cristian

You should know the gain of your amplifier.
I would suspect that OpenBTS has USRP output power set to high level for
direct antenna connection. This is probably too much for your
amplifier.
Try reducing your USRP output power to minimum level, then slowly
increase
it while observing your amplifier output signal on another receiver. Be
careful of signal overload of your receiver too.

The amplifier you have is both a receiver amplifier and transmitter
amplifier.
The receive side (uplink) says its 70dB gain, but hopefully that is with
ALC.
You could likely overload usrp receiver easily from that.

The OpenBTS.config has GSM.PowerAttenDB which you can try increasing to
reduce power output.
your specifications do not give the downlink gain.

Hello, Wayne, thank you very much for your answer.

This is the
amplifier and duplexer specs: (i paste this in order to dont attach the
doc).

AMPLIFIER

Shenzhen Ledmate Technology Co., Ltd.
PCS Signal
Booster
Technical Features:
*Receiving and sending separation,low
require for Ant isolation,making it
convenient for installation.
*Mini
design with metal cavity filter technology
inside.
*Full-duplex&dual-port design,and built-in power supply,making
it convenient for
installation.
*Allowing for continuous gain adjustment
31dB by 1dB step.
*ALC technology used to provide auto amplitude
fixing.
*Modules structures,making it convenient for
installation,debugging and
maintenance.
LM-P1900-25-A
Item
Frequency
Range (Mhz): Downlink :1930-1990MHz Uplink:1850-1910MHz
Downlink
:≥65dB
Gain (dB) Uplink :≥70dB
Output Power (dBm) ≥25 dBm
ALC ≥28
dB
Outer-band Spurious <-36dBm ≤-36dBm(9KHz–1GHz)
Spurious emission
≤-30dBm(1GHz–12.5GHz)
Isolation >135dB
Tri-rank intermodulation
≤-40dBc(PO=25dBm/CH/2CH)
band flatness PCS1900≤±5
Relay Phone PCS
Cover
area 1000sq.m
(Without concealment)
Install Methods Lay/
Hanging(Indoor)
Power supply AC220V(Expert AC-DC Convertor)(Facility
Power Supply:DC+5V)
Size 200mm(W)×142mm(D)×40mm(H)
Weight Approx. 1.2
kg
Fittings DC+5V/3Apower adapter ; Instruction
High-reliability Comply
with GB6993-86 standard

DUPLEXER

1850~1910MHZ/1930~1990MHZ DUPLEXER

Technical specification

SERIAL

PARAMETERS

RX

TX

1

Frequency Range

1850~1910MHz

1930~1990MHz

2

Insertion Loss

≤1.0dB

≤1.0dB

3

Ripple

≤0.7dB

≤0.7dB

4

VSWR

≤1.3

≤1.3

5

Rejection

≥65dB@1930~1990MHz

≥65dB@1850~1910MHz

6

Input Power

50W CW

7

Operating Temperature

-40℃~+70℃

8

Surface Finish

Black Paint

9

Connectors

N-Female

10

RoHS

Yes

11

Port Sign

Port1:ANT ; Port2:RX ; Port3:TX

If you please
see my last email to the list, were i describe my actual configuration.

Thank in advance

Cristian

El 2012-05-09 17:57, wayne roberts
escribió:

You should know the gain of your amplifier.
I would
suspect that OpenBTS has USRP output power set to high level for direct
antenna connection. This is probably too much for your amplifier.
Try
reducing your USRP output power to minimum level, then slowly increase
it while observing your amplifier output signal on another receiver. Be
careful of signal overload of your receiver too.

On Wed, May 9,
2012 at 11:44 AM, Cristian Rougier <[email protected] [3]> wrote:

Hello, i’m working in a private project with USRP 1 and OpenBTS on
PCS 1900MHZ.

Currently im working with chinesse (Ledmate.net) 25
dbm amplifier and duplexer for pcs 1900,
this works, but i having
problems in some areas, i can’t register any phones.

Can anybody
tell me what is the best amplifiers brand for use in this project ?,

i need to full extend the coverage area.

My current configuration
is

USRP1+clock tamer > PCS 25dbm amplifier > PCS duplexer >
antenna (yagi or omni 9dbi)

I need any other component? i’m
planing to change the amplifier, what is the best and
what better
power for full extent coverage and work fine?

I wait your news

Thanks in advance

Regards

Cristian


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Hello, and thank you for your answer

i have

GSM.PowerAttenDB 23

Do you think that i need to increase ?

Regards

Cristian

El
2012-05-09 20:00, wayne roberts escribió:

The amplifier you have is
both a receiver amplifier and transmitter amplifier.
The receive side
(uplink) says its 70dB gain, but hopefully that is with ALC.
You could
likely overload usrp receiver easily from that.

The OpenBTS.config
has GSM.PowerAttenDB which you can try increasing to reduce power
output.
your specifications do not give the downlink gain.

On
Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Cristian Rougier <[email protected]
[6]> wrote:

Hello, Wayne, thank you very much for your answer.

This is the amplifier and duplexer specs: (i paste this in order to
dont attach the doc).

AMPLIFIER

Shenzhen Ledmate
Technology Co., Ltd.
PCS Signal Booster
Technical Features:

*Receiving and sending separation,low require for Ant isolation,making
it

convenient for installation.
*Mini design with metal cavity
filter technology inside.

*Full-duplex&dual-port design,and
built-in power supply,making it convenient for
installation.

*Allowing for continuous gain adjustment 31dB by 1dB step.

*ALC
technology used to provide auto amplitude fixing.

*Modules
structures,making it convenient for installation,debugging and

maintenance.

LM-P1900-25-A
Item
Frequency Range (Mhz): Downlink
:1930-1990MHz Uplink:1850-1910MHz
Downlink :≥65dB
Gain (dB) Uplink
:≥70dB

Output Power (dBm) ≥25 dBm
ALC ≥28 dB
Outer-band
Spurious Spurious emission ≤-30dBm(1GHz–12.5GHz)
Isolation >135dB

Tri-rank intermodulation ≤-40dBc(PO=25dBm/CH/2CH)

band flatness
PCS1900≤±5

Relay Phone PCS
Cover area 1000sq.m
(Without
concealment)
Install Methods Lay/ Hanging(Indoor)
Power supply
AC220V(Expert AC-DC Convertor)(Facility Power Supply:DC+5V)
Size
200mm(W)×142mm(D)×40mm(H)
Weight Approx. 1.2 kg

Fittings
DC+5V/3Apower adapter ; Instruction
High-reliability Comply with
GB6993-86 standard

DUPLEXER

1850~1910MHZ/1930~1990MHZ
DUPLEXER

Technical specification

SERIAL

PARAMETERS

RX

TX

1

Frequency Range

1850~1910MHz

1930~1990MHz

2

Insertion Loss

≤1.0dB

≤1.0dB

3

Ripple

≤0.7dB

5

Rejection

≥65dB@1930~1990MHz

≥65dB@1850~1910MHz

6

Input Power

50W CW

7

Operating Temperature

-40℃~+70℃

8

Surface Finish

Black Paint

9

Connectors

N-Female

10

RoHS

Yes

11

Port
Sign

Port1:ANT ; Port2:RX ; Port3:TX

If you please see
my last email to the list, were i describe my actual configuration.

Thank in advance

Cristian

El 2012-05-09 17:57, wayne
roberts escribió:

You should know the gain of your
amplifier.
I would suspect that OpenBTS has USRP output power set to
high level for direct antenna connection. This is probably too much for
your amplifier.
Try reducing your USRP output power to minimum
level, then slowly increase it while observing your amplifier output
signal on another receiver. Be careful of signal overload of your
receiver too.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Cristian Rougier
<[email protected] [3]> wrote:

Hello, i’m working in a
private project with USRP 1 and OpenBTS on PCS 1900MHZ.

Currently im working with chinesse (Ledmate.net) 25 dbm amplifier and
duplexer for pcs 1900,

this works, but i having problems in some
areas, i can’t register any phones.

Can anybody tell me what
is the best amplifiers brand for use in this project ?,
i need to
full extend the coverage area.

My current configuration
is

USRP1+clock tamer > PCS 25dbm amplifier > PCS duplexer >
antenna (yagi or omni 9dbi)

I need any other component? i’m
planing to change the amplifier, what is the best and
what better
power for full extent coverage and work fine?

I wait your
news

Thanks in advance

Regards

Cristian


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