Forum: Radiant CMS Repost: KCKCC redesign and RadiantCMS

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8802b1fa1b53e2197beea9454244f847?d=identicon&s=25 Sean Cribbs (Guest)
on 2007-01-19 16:29
(Received via mailing list)
First, my apologies to those who are also on the Ruby On Rails Higher Ed
list for reposting this.  I thought you guys might find it interesting,
and evidence that Radiant is 'production-worthy'.



Sure! I actually have a set of blog posts I want to write about building
the site, but having just released it last week, we're swamped with
change requests and irate staff. (You know how it is!)  But I'll give
you the sort-of-short version.

Using Radiant for the live site was not our first choice.  We wanted to
purchase a very expensive enterprise-level CMS, but the funding or the
will to pay for it just wasn't there.  After we were forced to find an
Open Source alternative, the only option that had most closely met our
requirements was ezPublish.  However, we quickly found that it was a
pain to use and too inflexible (or too flexible? I'm not sure) and the
performance would be abysmal.  So in the end we chose Radiant, partly
because of its ease-of-use, and partly because I had enough experience
with it and with Rails to build anything extra we needed.  We had also
used Radiant for prototyping our navigation design for usability
testing, so some of the team was familiar with it.
Luckily, just before we began building the site, Radiant's up-and-coming
extension system came to a stage where it was workable, so I took the
plunge.  While the rest of the team worked on sanitizing content, I
built several extensions and along the way found some bugs and submitted
patches to the core.  On the live site there are six extensions that I
wrote or ported:

1) Events calendar - powers the academic calendar page and some dates
here-and-there.  It's a basic CRUD application with Events belonging to
multiple Calendars, etc.  It implements basic tags for accessing the
data that can be used in any page.
2) Expiry tags - just two tag definitions that allow you to have
time-sensitive content.  Based on my most recent blog post to
3) Mailer - a port and modification of Matt McCray's original Mailer
behavior.  This is in use ALL OVER the site.  Except for very few cases,
where there's a form, it's the Mailer extension.
4) LDAP/Personnel Directory - One of our major goals was to stop being
responsible for keeping personnel data up-to-date on the site.  So we
worked with the IT people to get full-read access to the Netware
directory.  This is a combination CRUD/integration extension.  I created
saved or "canned" LDAP queries that could be run easily from a tag in
any page.  The admin interface is neat too because it uses Ajax to allow
you to test your query as you are creating it.
5) Search - based on the old, original Search behavior, except I
stripped out the live-preview functionality and added a little tag for
truncating and stripping tags from results pages (so you can see a
little snippet like Google shows).  In the future, I'd like to port the
acts_as_ferret version, as it will produce more reliable results.
6) Syllabi - One of the mainstays of the old site were the "course
descriptions".  This extension combines a basic CRUD app (3 models -
Prefix/Department, Course, and Syllabus (acts_as_attachment)) with two
special page-types that assist in displaying the syllabi.  One page just
lists the prefixes with links to the virtual subpage which displays the
individual courses and links to the syllabi. This one deserves a
detailed blog post.

As I mentioned, constructing all of these made me even more intimate
with the source code of Radiant.  Thus, I found bugs and submitted these

1) Added a Rake task for running tests in your extensions and fixed the
generated test_helper.rb
2) Fixed some Javascript issues with showing/hiding the slug/breadcrumbs
in the Page edit view.
3) Factored out the SiteMap Javascript class into a separate file,
rather than being at the top of the template in the Page edit view.

Just last week, John Long accepted me to the core team, so I'll be
squashing more bugs in the future.

Now, the big problem everyone has with Rails apps is how to deploy.
Because I had tried it out and loved it, we went with Litespeed server.
It's practically a no-brainer to set up Rails applications and its speed
executing Rails and PHP scripts is legendary --- something like 30%
faster than FastCGI!  It's been awesome having a web-based admin that
makes sense and is easy to use, too.  So far, we have had NO problems
with it.  Probably the best part is no zombie FCGI processes!

So, it looks like I made the short story long.  Overall, Radiant has
worked beautifully for us.  Our whole team has enjoyed using it, and
it's like night-and-day from what we used to do.  I would highly
recommend it to others with this caveat: Radiant is not at the stage
where people who are not especially computer and web-savvy should be
entering content.  Although it is a boon for web developers and
designers, it would scare away the poor Math department secretary.  It
also has a long way to go in terms of providing flexible
user-privileges, although I could see an extension handling that.  But
if you have a ticket/change-request system already, it will make edits
that much faster because you don't have to FTP them up to the server.
The only other thing that I think it lacks is a nice asset-management
interface, but there are a few extensions out there for it and I have
one of my own up my sleeve.

In terms of Radiant's longevity, who can say?  I think it is gaining
momentum, but even if it weren't I wouldn't worry as much because it is
open-source.  Moving to something else in the future is always going to
be painful, but we felt Radiant's hands-off approach to managing content
would ease a transition because the content is so close to the rendered

Hope this answers your questions...


Sean Cribbs
Web Services, KCKCC

 >>> 1/6/2007 9:03 AM >>>

Congratulations on finishing the KCKCC site redesign!  If you have a
few minutes, would you mind sharing a bit on how it went?  I see that
you used RadiantCMS and I've seen your posts on the Radiant blog, so
I'd like to hear about your use of Radiant: how well it's worked, how
you've extended it, how content creators have accepted it, etc.  Would
you recommend it to others?  Where does it fall short?  Is it something
you predict will be around for a long while (increasing momentum) or
will it die off in a few years and require a painful transition to
something else?

Hope you don't mind sharing your experience with this group.  Thanks in

Jason Garber
Eastern Mennonite University
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