Hello
I am looking for a decent Ruby and RAILs editor. (JEdit is not really
working out for me on Windows)
I notice that on the Ruby on Rails Demos (Weblog and Flicker) the guys
are using TextMate ( on MAC OS ?) It seems pretty effective.
Any views or ideas of an equivelent to TextMate that runs on Windows !
( No I guess not !)
Cheers
Jules
On Dec 18, 2005, at 19:57, Jules wrote:
( No I guess not !)
Eclipse + RadRails is a good environment and is portable, check out
this demo:
http://download.radrails.org/video/RadRails_Import.mov
In my opinion the plugin needs yet some iteration, but works great
already.
– fxn
Jules wrote:
Hello
I am looking for a decent Ruby and RAILs editor. (JEdit is not really
working out for me on Windows)I notice that on the Ruby on Rails Demos (Weblog and Flicker) the guys
are using TextMate ( on MAC OS ?) It seems pretty effective.Any views or ideas of an equivelent to TextMate that runs on Windows !
( No I guess not !)
Not very optimistic, are you?
What features of TextMate are you looking for?
(I’m quite happy using vim, Windows file manager, and a handful of
custom Ruby shell scripts and Unix command ports for finding and
manipulating stuff from the command line. If there’s something else find
I need to do at the command line, I can write a Ruby tool for it. If
I want to extend vim, I can use Ruby to do it. Works out well.)
James
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James B. wrote:
( No I guess not !)
I want to extend vim, I can use Ruby to do it. Works out well.)
http://www.30secondrule.com - Building Better Tools
There’s been lots of positive discussions about lots of editors in
c.l.r: vim, emacs, komodo, eric, eclipse, arachno, scite, kate,
kdevelop, leo…
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 03:57:46AM +0900, Jules wrote:
I am looking for a decent Ruby and RAILs editor. (JEdit is not really
working out for me on Windows)I notice that on the Ruby on Rails Demos (Weblog and Flicker) the guys
are using TextMate ( on MAC OS ?) It seems pretty effective.Any views or ideas of an equivelent to TextMate that runs on Windows !
( No I guess not !)
Although probably a more “heavyweight”, the RadRails IDE (build on top
of
Eclipse) seems to be getting some traction.
marcel
Hello
Thanks for all the posts. Lots of useful tips on various tools, shells
and multiple cmd line tools/scripts, rather than one big IDE/Tool. So
many different ideas and tools, but they tend to be orientated around
unix type midntset.
The problem is that I am not very smart or clever, so I have relied
upon C# and Visual Studio, which I find to be very robust. My ideal
would be Visual Studio for Ruby, even if it is a dynamic language
outside of the Managed code environment. Robust code completion and
generation tools.
If Ruby/Rails is to take off in a big way we need simple/ robust
development environment for us simple folk. Just my view.
Jules
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 04:32:37AM +0900, James B. wrote:
(I’m quite happy using vim, Windows file manager, and a handful of
custom Ruby shell scripts and Unix command ports for finding and
manipulating stuff from the command line. If there’s something else find
Care to share any details?
–
Chad P. [ CCD CopyWrite | http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
unix virus: If you’re using a unixlike OS, please forward
this to 20 others and erase your system partition.
On Dec 19, 2005, at 17:32, Jules wrote:
Thanks for all the posts. Lots of useful tips on various tools,
shells
and multiple cmd line tools/scripts, rather than one big IDE/Tool.
Well, someone mentioned Eclipse + RadRails, if Eclipse is something
that’s big :-). If you are an IDE guy that combo is good.
– fxn
On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Jules wrote:
So many different ideas and tools, but they tend to be orientated
around
unix type midntset.
Well, Ruby grew up on Unix. That an it’s just a good mindset. 
The problem is that I am not very smart or clever, so I have relied
upon C# and Visual Studio, which I find to be very robust.
Sure you are. You’re a programmer.
You’ve also located a nice support group for the hard parts…
My ideal would be Visual Studio for Ruby, even if it is a dynamic
language
outside of the Managed code environment. Robust code completion and
generation tools.If Ruby/Rails is to take off in a big way we need simple/ robust
development environment for us simple folk. Just my view.
Sadly, building these kinds of environments for Ruby are much harder
than they are for C#, because Ruby is so dynamic it’s hard to make
safe assumptions about the code. This is the most likely reason you
don’t see Visual Studio equivalent tools for Ruby.
I know we do have some IDEs and I hope they will continue to improve
for those that prefer that method of coding.
James Edward G. II
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 02:21:59AM +0900, Gary A. wrote:
I know that for myself I have somewhat dedicated the last few days, along
with a friend of mine, to trying out the IDE’s that are out there; and
have unfortuantely been mostly disappointed, at least from a linux
standpoint.
I always just kinda figured that Linux is my IDE.
–
Chad P. [ CCD CopyWrite | http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
unix virus: If you’re using a unixlike OS, please forward
this to 20 others and erase your system partition.
Jules wrote:
The problem is that I am not very smart or clever, so I have relied
upon C# and Visual Studio, which I find to be very robust. My ideal
would be Visual Studio for Ruby, even if it is a dynamic language
outside of the Managed code environment. Robust code completion and
generation tools.If Ruby/Rails is to take off in a big way we need simple/ robust
development environment for us simple folk. Just my view.
Why do you need a big IDE? I just use editpad lite (for the tabbed file
viewing) without syntax highlighting or any of that fancy mumbo jumbo. I
also always have a command window open at the same time 
So I can run
my tests, start my server, etc.
On 12/18/05, Jules [email protected] wrote:
I’ve used UltraEdit for a long time, and it’s a great editor. It has
some nice ‘project’ features built in, but at its heart it’s just a
lightweight text editor. Unfortunately, its syntax highlighting
system just isn’t powerful enough to handle Ruby, and definitely isn’t
up to handling ERb / RHTML files.
Here’s an example of what a text editor has to deal with:
var = ‘example’
print %Q- A fairly hard #{var}
-#{This is a comment, not a variable}
So, in recent days, I’ve switched over to Vim, in the form of:
http://cream.sourceforge.net
I’m still getting used to it, and getting over the lack of tabs for my
open files, but so far the “Ruby compatibility” is much higher. It
handles the highlighting for the above snippet of Ruby without any
difficulty.
Hi Jules,
My ideal would be Visual Studio for Ruby
I’m a big fan of Visual Studio. The closest thing I’ve been able to
find
for Ruby is ArachnoRuby: www.ruby-ide.com
Sometimes I spend the day switching between Visual Studio (for C++
or C#) and ArachnoRuby, and it goes pretty smoothly. I even find
myself wishing that Visual Studio had some of the features that
ArachnoRuby does (like triple-click to select a line.)
Wayne
Wayne V.
No Bugs Software
“Ruby and C++ Agile Contract Programming in Silicon Valley”
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 09:26 +0900, Wilson B. wrote:
( No I guess not !)
-#{This is a comment, not a variable}So, in recent days, I’ve switched over to Vim, in the form of:
http://cream.sourceforge.net
I’m still getting used to it, and getting over the lack of tabs for my
open files, but so far the “Ruby compatibility” is much higher. It
handles the highlighting for the above snippet of Ruby without any
difficulty.
I’m also a Vim user, but without cream. But Vim isn’t my only editor. I
also have used Jed and Emacs (yes, i have used Vim AND Emacs :p) in the
past.
I’ve found an interesting gui editor with the name “edit”. Looks alot
like Textmate(I haven’t used Textmate, just to clarify):
http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/edit/
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:10:04 -0800, James Edward G. II
[email protected] wrote:
I know we do have some IDEs and I hope they will continue to improve for
those that prefer that method of coding.James Edward G. II
I know that for myself I have somewhat dedicated the last few days,
along
with a friend of mine, to trying out the IDE’s that are out there; and
have unfortuantely been mostly disappointed, at least from a linux
standpoint.
On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Alexander J. wrote:
I’ve found an interesting gui editor with the name “edit”. Looks alot
like Textmate(I haven’t used Textmate, just to clarify):
http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/edit/
Looks quite cool, sadly when I try to download the salma-hayek.tgz I
get a 403 Forbidden error.
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 18:41 +0900, Logan C. wrote:
On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Alexander J. wrote:
I’ve found an interesting gui editor with the name “edit”. Looks alot
like Textmate(I haven’t used Textmate, just to clarify):
http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/edit/Looks quite cool, sadly when I try to download the salma-hayek.tgz I
get a 403 Forbidden error.
I’ve just mirrored the files:
http://powerhuhn.net/mirror/various/salma-hayek.tgz
http://powerhuhn.net/mirror/various/edit.tgz
On 12/20/05, Alexander J. [email protected] wrote:
I’ve found an interesting gui editor with the name “edit”. Looks alot
like Textmate(I haven’t used Textmate, just to clarify):
http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/edit/
This looks really interesting, but the install process is truly
insane. Has anyone managed to make this work on Win32? Just checking
to make sure I’m not reinventing the wheel, before I go through the
5-hour process.
–Wilson.
On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:58 AM, Alexander J. wrote:
I’ve just mirrored the files:
http://powerhuhn.net/mirror/various/salma-hayek.tgz
http://powerhuhn.net/mirror/various/edit.tgz
hey, thanks!
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 04:03:13AM +0900, Josef ‘Jupp’ SCHUGT wrote:
definitely is not among them.
Let me illustrate this with an example that sometimes make me hack my
keyboard instead of hacking on it:For searching forward for some string you may need to use Ctrl-F,
Ctrl-S or ‘/’ depending on which program you are currently using
(shell, editor, debugger). Integration on the other hand would require
that the same operation is always bound to the same keystroke.
Since I’m pretty well dedicated to vim as my primary editor, the same
operation is always bound to the same keystroke. Choosing the
specific tools you use in the Linux IDE is roughly equivalent to
personalizing the settings for a highly configurable IDE product like
Eclipse or Visual Studio. Well – maybe not equivalent, but analogous,
at any rate.
The Emacs operating system and the vim editor are much closer to an
IDE than Unix.
Combine directory browsing and shell access from within the editor,
and/or additional terminal emulator windows open for more direct shell
access, and you’ve got all the IDE you need.
–
Chad P. [ CCD CopyWrite | http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
unix virus: If you’re using a unixlike OS, please forward
this to 20 others and erase your system partition.
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