Forum: Ruby-core Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for surviving 1.8?

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Feature #4239: Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for
surviving 1.8?
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4239#change-33173

Author: sorah (Shota Fukumori)
Status: Assigned
Priority: Normal
Assignee: shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe)
Category: core
Target version: Ruby 1.8.8


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 # http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4207
 = Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for surviving 1.8?

 Hi,

 I know that we cannot release ruby_1_8 branch... more than anyone.

 But the time past 3 years from 1.9.0, and 2.5 years from 1.8.7;
 it will be turned to 3 years in June 2011.

 Why I'm marking "3 years," because releasing interval over 3 years
 first time ever, and almost systems have revised after 3 years from
 developed in my experience... so, almost codes which targets 1.8.7
 preparing to revised; I think.

 Well, Which version used when codes which targets 1.8.7 are revised,
 I recommend 1.9.2 on my post, but almost can't use 1.9.x in
 actuality. Like, Extension libraries doesn't work.
 When can't use 1.9.x in codes, so it means use only 1.8.7. but it is
 really tough, for making tasks with 1.8.7, and I think that when I
 can give up maintaining 1.8.7? when my motivation is decreasing in
 future, it won't increase again. So I want to use new version,
 and don't use 1.8.7. New codes must target newer versions.

 So, I want to set directions about 1.8.x future. I'm considing that
 destroy ruby_1_8 branch and we won't release 1.8.8 for a one of
 ideas. If we won't release 1.8.8, it means that can publish
 announcement about 1.8.7 is last version of 1.8 branch,then 1.8
 goes to last maintainance release. ah, in simplicity developers
 task is decreased; developers will be happy.

 P.S.: I hope that people in a posision like Endoh Yusuke at 1.9.2.
 Anyone?

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 # http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4207#note-6

 Well, Organize this issue without my factors, currently we have the
following
 issues of 1.8.8.

 * the time past 3 years from 1.9.0 released. In last 3 years, We
released
   1.9.2 smoothly at 1.9 branch. Thanks Yugui (Yuki Sonoda).
   Also many users are using 1.9.x at forms of RailsDevCon.
   http://railsdevcon.jp/RailsDevCon2010report.pdf
 * 1.8.8 (and 1.8.7?) is on migration step to 1.9, but if we continue
   developing 1.8.8 at this rate and release 1.8.8 in 2020, do users
which
   haven't migrated to 1.9 exist?
 * Currently does ruby_1_8 include any prompting structures to migrate
   1.9.x more than 1.8.7 at all? Just not merged same patches as 1.9?
 * "I want to release so I release. Any users didn't effect." is a one
of
   views, but it makes unhappy by recognition differences?

 So.. Because 1.8 mustn't let be uncontrolled,
   I propose the following ideas which possible:

 1. Not today but ASAP, release 1.8.8 as "better 1.8.7." Release goal is
this
    Summer.
 2. Develop 1.8.8 until it's approached to ideal. Users can't be affect.
    Release goal is 2020 Christmas.
 3. We won't release 1.8.8 never. Drop.
 4. Otherwise I haven't thought yet.

 I don't specify any idea for adoption.
 Anyhow, I think that 1.8 mustn't keep current principle, so I asking
"What do we do?"

 Well.. what do we do?
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