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B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 22:46
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Hi,

I'm having problems getting RoR to work nicely on tiger.
Setting up a test appliacation works without a glitch.

However, trying to run my existing app (working on winxp and debian) is
a real challenge - for me.
First there is this error:

uninitialized constant Magick

RAILS_ROOT: script/../config/..
Application Trace | Framework Trace | Full Trace

/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.3/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:200:in
`const_missing'
#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/player.rb:2
#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/models/user.rb:1
./script/../config/../app/controllers/application.rb:8

...
This error occured while loading the following files:
    script/../config/../app/controllers/application.rb
    => model user.rb
    user.rb
    player.rb
    magick.rb

To top it off, I get this one running script/console

Vigor12:~/tennis jeroen$ ruby script/console
Loading development environment.
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/completion.rb:10:in `require': No such file to
load -- readline (LoadError)
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/completion.rb:10
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/init.rb:218:in `require'
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/init.rb:218:in `load_modules'
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/init.rb:216:in `each'
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/init.rb:216:in `load_modules'
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/init.rb:21:in `setup'
         from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb.rb:54:in `start'
         from /usr/bin/irb:13
Vigor12:~/tennis jeroen$

This is my first week on Mac, so this might actually not be too hard to
solve, I just cant't work it out.

I have compiled ImageMagick and installed the Rmagick gem successfully,
or so their outputs makes me believe.

Help is much appreciated!

Jeroen
4353600bbb6b6e0950e62f7f44e49dd5?d=identicon&s=25 ssmith (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 22:54
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Hi Jeroen,

Sounds like you may have the problem described here (solution included):

http://tech.rufy.com/entry/46

There may be other ways to address it as well, but this is the route
I went down some time back.

Steven
B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 23:02
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Steven Smith wrote:
> Hi Jeroen,
>
> Sounds like you may have the problem described here (solution included):
>
> http://tech.rufy.com/entry/46
>
> There may be other ways to address it as well, but this is the route  I
> went down some time back.

Hey, that looks petty good. I wonder though, what if I already have ruby
RoR and rubygems 0.8.11 installed. Is that a problem? Will it overwrite
this or is there a quick uninstall for gems and rails?

Thanks a lot btw!

J
280b41a88665fd8c699e83a9a25ef949?d=identicon&s=25 steve (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 23:02
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Jeroen Houben wrote:
>
> However, trying to run my existing app (working on winxp and debian) is
> a real challenge - for me.

You might also check out [Locomotive][1].  It's incredibly convenient,
and the Max bundles include RMagick.

--Steve

[1]: http://locomotive.sourceforge.net/
4353600bbb6b6e0950e62f7f44e49dd5?d=identicon&s=25 ssmith (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 23:10
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Not sure, but you could pull the script down (rufy.com/fix-ruby-
tiger.sh) and see what versions it's expecting now -- it may have
been updated.  Also, you could always change the versions in your
local copy.

Additionally, make sure you read the comments in the blog entry as
there are some additional hints in there as well.

Steven
B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-11-29 23:18
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Steven Smith wrote:
> Not sure, but you could pull the script down
> (rufy.com/fix-ruby-tiger.sh) and see what versions it's expecting now --
> it may have been updated.  Also, you could always change the versions in
> your local copy.
>
> Additionally, make sure you read the comments in the blog entry as there
> are some additional hints in there as well.

yeah will do that tomorrow, off to bed now.
I did just go ahead and ran the script but it was complaining about ruby
header files not being there and suggested I install Xcode from the CD.
I did install Xcode from the apple's site so I don't know what's up
there.

I'll have a closer look tomorrow. My Mac and its OS sure are pretty and
all but I must say I was up and running with rails a lot quicker on both
Debian and Windows..

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!

Jeroen
343f401d529a7034e59d5a07b307821e?d=identicon&s=25 aidanf (Guest)
on 2005-11-30 14:32
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Do you have fink (fink.sourceforge.net) installed? I couldnt get rails
running on os x even after following the instructions to fix osx's ruby.
I
found it much easier to install ruby through fink  than to fix the apple
ruby installation. It also means you can use fink to install any other
unix
software that you need.

AF
B86a67bb6d14d5af260b925234bf1a02?d=identicon&s=25 Toby Sterrett (tobys)
on 2005-11-30 16:47
steve wrote:

> You might also check out [Locomotive][1].  It's incredibly convenient,
> and the Max bundles include RMagick.
> [1]: http://locomotive.sourceforge.net/

i strongly recommend locomotive as well. i had rails up and running the
traditional way on my mac, but since locomotive has come around i run
everything through it. it just makes it so easy, gives you a centralized
command center for all your rails projects, has commands to open each
project in your editor (great to open as a project in textmate) and in
your choice of terminal with the locomotive environment, and the max
bundles include most of what you'd need.

toby
Ccaa63b09f5168501b194266b9a1e7cc?d=identicon&s=25 scott (Guest)
on 2005-12-01 03:10
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I've had good luck with 10.4 (Tiger) + fix-ruby-tiger.sh + Developer
Tools from the Tiger DVD. I don't recommend the latest XCode update
from Apple's developer site, though.

I've only had to fall back on Fink and Darwin Ports for Fox and Gnome
-- both have many dependent libraries that require some elbow grease
and know-how to build properly on OS X.

Scott
E28c35323f624b8b9ed8712e25105454?d=identicon&s=25 ray (Guest)
on 2005-12-01 07:04
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toby sterrett wrote:

> bundles include most of what you'd need.
Is there a way to do testing from inside Locomotive? If not, you still
have to have a complete installation to run your tests.

Thanks,

Ray
B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-12-01 09:46
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Hi Scott,

Scott Willson wrote:
> I've had good luck with 10.4 (Tiger) + fix-ruby-tiger.sh + Developer
> Tools from the Tiger DVD. I don't recommend the latest XCode update
> from Apple's developer site, though.

Okay. What's wrong with the latest XCode update from their site then?
Do you have script/console and script/breakpointer working find with
readline support? And how about RMagick, how did you install that?

I installed Lokomotive and that worked as advertised but I get funny
errors trying to run script/breakpointer - it won't start. I would also
prefer to have a "normal" installation. I think I've pretty much
polluted my system to a point where it's better to do a complete
reinstall of the OS, so you're saying I shouldn't install XCode from the
Apple site but use the CD?

Jeroen
8e44c65ac5b896da534ef2440121c953?d=identicon&s=25 ezra (Guest)
on 2005-12-01 17:26
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On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:44 AM, Jeroen Houben wrote:

> that?
>
> I installed Lokomotive and that worked as advertised but I get
> funny errors trying to run script/breakpointer - it won't start. I
> would also prefer to have a "normal" installation. I think I've
> pretty much polluted my system to a point where it's better to do a
> complete reinstall of the OS, so you're saying I shouldn't install
> XCode from the Apple site but use the CD?
>
> Jeroen
> ______________________________________________

Guys-

	Here are some instructions for installing the whole ruby/gems/rails/
lighttpd/fcgi from source on OSX. I have used these many times to do
installs of rails and ruby that do have readline support and
everything else. I would follow these instructions and rename the
original apple ruby to ruby.orig and irb to irb.orig. The instuctions
install into /usr/local/bin so make sure that is in your $PATH
_before_ /usr/bin and you should be good to go!


Cheers-

-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Yakima Herald-Republic
WebMaster
http://yakimaherald.com
509-577-7732
ezra@yakima-herald.com
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 02:18
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Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
[...]
> Guys-
>
>     Here are some instructions for installing the whole ruby/gems/rails/
       ^^^^ Where?
> lighttpd/fcgi from source on OSX. I have used these many times to do
> installs of rails and ruby that do have readline support and  everything
> else. I would follow these instructions and rename the  original apple
> ruby to ruby.orig and irb to irb.orig. The instuctions  install into
> /usr/local/bin so make sure that is in your $PATH  _before_ /usr/bin and
> you should be good to go!

Please :-)

    Justin
Ba5816b2a9c23d87324e3b98beabba8c?d=identicon&s=25 alisonrowland (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 02:58
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On 12/1/05, Ray Baxter <ray@warmroom.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to do testing from inside Locomotive? If not, you still
> have to have a complete installation to run your tests.


Absolutely. Locomotive gives you full access to a rails-enabled
terminal.

--Alison
132a94ca65959bda6c74fae54bff2425?d=identicon&s=25 ezra (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 03:22
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On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Justin Forder wrote:

>> instuctions  install into /usr/local/bin so make sure that is in
>> your $PATH  _before_ /usr/bin and you should be good to go!
>
> Please :-)
>
>    Justin

Sorry about that I could have sword I pasted the link in:

http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack

Cheers-

-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
WebMaster
Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper
ezra@yakima-herald.com
509-577-7732
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 06:49
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Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:

> Sorry about that I could have sword I pasted the link in:
>
> http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack
>
> Cheers-

Great! Thanks

    Justin
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 07:38
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Justin Forder wrote:
> Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
>
>> Sorry about that I could have sword I pasted the link in:
>>
>> http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack
>>
>> Cheers-
>
>
> Great! Thanks

One question, though - why is the bit about PHP needed? (And if it is
needed, where is the source downloaded from?)

thanks

   Justin
132a94ca65959bda6c74fae54bff2425?d=identicon&s=25 ezra (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 08:15
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On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Justin Forder wrote:

> is needed, where is the source downloaded from?)
>
> thanks
>
>   Justin
>
> ____________________________________________

The php part is only there if you need to run php apps under lighttpd/
fcgi. I like to run phpmyadmin out of the public dir of my rails app
sometimes. You don't need that part unless you need php.

Cheers

-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
WebMaster
Yakima Herald-Republic Newspaper
ezra@yakima-herald.com
509-577-7732
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 15:14
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Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
>
> The php part is only there if you need to run php apps under lighttpd/
> fcgi. I like to run phpmyadmin out of the public dir of my rails app
> sometimes. You don't need that part unless you need php.
>
Thanks. I think I'll scrap my attempt at using DarwinPorts, reinstall
Tiger on my Mac Mini, and build everything from source as you advise.

regards

   Justin
7077206baf3a50094dcdbf81c46a0e08?d=identicon&s=25 hypsometry (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 15:22
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On 12/2/05, Justin Forder <justin@justinforder.me.uk> wrote:
> Thanks. I think I'll scrap my attempt at using DarwinPorts, reinstall
> Tiger on my Mac Mini, and build everything from source as you advise.

What problems have you been having with using DarwinPorts?

I just completed a clean install using DarwinPorts, and had some
problems but got most of the quirks worked out.

--
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A2b2f4ee23989dc68529baef9cbddcd6?d=identicon&s=25 listbox (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 16:23
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On 29-nov-2005, at 22:43, Jeroen Houben wrote:

>
> This error occured while loading the following files:
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/irb/completion.rb:10:in `require': No such file
>
> This is my first week on Mac, so this might actually not be too
> hard to solve, I just cant't work it out.
>
> I have compiled ImageMagick and installed the Rmagick gem
> successfully, or so their outputs makes me believe.
>
> Help is much appreciated!


Readline has nothing to do with Magick. Magick won't get loaded
automatically - you have to explicitly require' it in your app like

require 'RMagick'

before you call any Magick:: functionality. MIND THE  CAPS. Try if
this works for you in plain irb:

require 'rubygems'
require 'RMagick'

If you don't get it sorted out in a couple of days just shoot me a
mail and I'll get it fixed up for you in Utrecht (provided you have a
laptop and like beer).


--
Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
me at julik.nl
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 17:53
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Chris Boone wrote:

>
The specific problem I had with DarwinPorts was that the rb-rubygems
installation failed, with an error that someone else had reported in
Bugzilla but which had been closed because the maintainer had failed to
reproduce it. (bug 4137 at http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/)

I managed to get past this by following some advice associated with that
bug. Then I had problems with path setup, given that the gems port had
insisted on installing the ruby port, so I now had two installations of
ruby.

But the fundamental problem I have had with getting Rails up and running
in anything approaching production form on OS X (I am entirely happy
with Locomotive + TextMate for development) is that there is no
definitive source of dependable, up to date guidance. (This seems
particularly strange given that DHH once blogged that he'd have doubts
about hiring anybody who wasn't using a Mac.) The Wiki is a mess, and
there are many alternative sources, all different. Here's the list of
URLs I was comparing at the time:

http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowtoInsta...
http://hivelogic.com/articles/2004/12/05/installin...
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/FastCGI+on+OS+X
http://maczealots.com/tutorials/ruby-on-rails/
http://www.tonyarnold.com/articles/2005/08/10/roll...
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowtoInsta...
http://www.pjhyett.com/articles/2005/06/04/setting...
http://theexciter.com/articles/installing-lighttpd-on-osx
http://tech.rufy.com/entry/46
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/07/20/apa...
http://mongoo.se/articles/2005/10/28/fresh-install...

Then, once all the pieces seem to have installed correctly, there are
the problems of configuration and integration testing. I don't think any
of the articles I've read gives advice on how to test that each piece is
working before putting everything together, or on how to diagnose
problems. This is not specific to OS X, and even the AWDR book is
lacking in this respect.

I have an iBook where I used one approach to installation (using Tony
Arnold's package) and a Mac Mini where I have been trying to use
DarwinPorts, and in neither case have I reached a point where
Apache/fastCGI/Rails is working. I would like to gain mastery of:

   Apache-fastCGI-Rails
   lighttpd-fastCGI-Rails
   Apache-lighttpd-fastCGI-Rails

with multiple applications, either discriminated by domain name, or
port, or path,

with SQLite or MySQL or PostgreSQL

and I can see it taking a long time (this is a spare-time activity).

I did once (back in April) succeed in getting Apache-fastCGI-Rails-MySQL
working on Windows XP.

Sorry for the long response, but I find this extremely frustrating

    Justin
B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 18:34
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Thanks Justin,

I originally started this thread and it seems I'm not alone. So your
final conclusion is Lokomotive for development and no real solution for
production use (yet) right?

I still need to do a reinstall of my Mini. Do you know anything about
the Xcode tools from the Apple site? I was told they're no good and you
need to use the ones included on the CD.

I find all of this frustrating too. I'm not a sysadmin nor do I want to
be. I just want design and code. Okay I need some basic understanding of
how things work, fine, but I don't want to be patching bogus Ruby
installs or comparing dozens of different possible solutions. Anywas,
I'm not blaming anybody here (or maybe Apple for putting a lame Ruby
install on their system).

Cheers,

Jeroen
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 19:18
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Jeroen Houben wrote:

> Thanks Justin,
>
> I originally started this thread and it seems I'm not alone. So your
> final conclusion is Lokomotive for development and no real solution for
> production use (yet) right?

That's today's situation - maybe things will be better after the
weekend!

Given that Locomotive contains so much stuff, it would be good to also
look at options for pulling out Locomotive content into a permanent
installation... I might email Ryan Raaum about the possibility. But this
weekend I'll just be starting afresh and following Ezra's instructions.
If I can get lighttpd-fastCGI-Rails-MySQL running, and make that visible
through my firewall, that will be great.

> I still need to do a reinstall of my Mini. Do you know anything about
> the Xcode tools from the Apple site? I was told they're no good and you
> need to use the ones included on the CD.

This note has recently been added to

   http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowtoInsta...

and supports what you have heard (but gives a fix):

<quote>
With 10.4.3 and Xcode 2.2 (November 10, 2005), several file locations
have changed. Native extensions won?t build; you can fix this by adding
symlinks to the old locations.
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/universal-darwin8.0/*
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/powerpc-darwin8.0
</quote>

So I think I'll get ruby, gems, rails, fastCGI and database drivers
sorted out before I bring Xcode up to date.

> I find all of this frustrating too. I'm not a sysadmin nor do I want to
> be. I just want design and code. Okay I need some basic understanding of
> how things work, fine, but I don't want to be patching bogus Ruby
> installs or comparing dozens of different possible solutions.

Exactly.

Anywas,
> I'm not blaming anybody here (or maybe Apple for putting a lame Ruby
> install on their system).

Well, I was hoping to use the fixrbconfig gem to sort that out, but then
found that the DarwinPorts install of gems brought a whole new Ruby
along with it...

Oh well. Think I'll burn a CD of everything I had downloaded, and then
start reinstalling.

regards

   Justin
27c57aaa4bda5ac8b0593659573b522f?d=identicon&s=25 blair (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 20:07
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Justin Forder wrote:
> Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:
>
>>
>> The php part is only there if you need to run php apps under lighttpd/
>> fcgi. I like to run phpmyadmin out of the public dir of my rails app
>> sometimes. You don't need that part unless you need php.
>>
> Thanks. I think I'll scrap my attempt at using DarwinPorts, reinstall
> Tiger on my Mac Mini, and build everything from source as you advise.

I use Fink myself and it works, so you may want to give that a shot
also.

Regards,
Blair

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8e44c65ac5b896da534ef2440121c953?d=identicon&s=25 ezra (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 20:48
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Guys-

	I know i already posted this link to you but i want to let you know
that I have used these exact instructions to set up over 20 OSX
systems that now run the whole stack perfectly. I gave up on apache/
fcgi after much testing and went with lighttpd/fcgi for my rails
apps. I still use apache sometimes but just as a front proxy to
lighttpd on a higher port so that I can serve multiple rails apps
with different addresses off of port 80. Here  is the link again to
the install set up:

http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack

And here is an example apache vhost to use to proxy your rails apps
from apache on port 80 to lighttpd on a higher port:

<VirtualHost *:80>
     ServerName example.com
     ServerAlias www.example.com
     ProxyPass / http://example.com:8000/
     ProxyPassReverse / http://example.com:8000/
</VirtualHost>


	I used these same instructions to install the whole rails/lighttpd
stack on a dual g5 xserve that serves http://yakimaherald.com . That
site gets 70,000+ page views/day and has been running great ever
since launch in August. I know there are many different versions of
tutorials so I took some from all of them and made those instructions
which have worked very well for me many times. So I hope this helps
you  get some perspective. I highly recommend just ignoring apache/
fcgi and just using lighttpd for your fcgi needs. Apache/fcgi was
never stable for me on OSX no matter what I did. lighttpd/fcgi is
rock solid for me on OSX and has been for the better part of my last
year on rails.

	Feel free to contact me off list if you run into trouble or want
some good lighttpd.conf files for your apps and i will do my best to
help you get off the ground. Once you get a good install once you
will be able to repeat it easily on other machines.


Cheers-
-Ezra\

On Dec 2, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Jeroen Houben wrote:

> I find all of this frustrating too. I'm not a sysadmin nor do I
> Justin Forder wrote:
>>> What problems have you been having with using DarwinPorts?
>> with that bug. Then I had problems with path setup, given that the
>> http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowtoInsta...
>> http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/07/20/apa...
>> use DarwinPorts, and in neither case have I reached a point where
>> Sorry for the long response, but I find this extremely frustrating
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>

-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
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WebMaster
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509-577-7732
ezra@yakima-herald.com
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 21:17
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Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:

> http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack
>
Thanks, Ezra. I've been constantly impressed at your experience and at
the amount and quality of advice you give on the list.

I've backed up my Mac Mini and taken the "Erase and Install" option on
the Tiger upgrade DVD - once that's complete I'll install Xcode and then
proceed through your instructions.

> and has been for the better part of my last  year on rails.
Fine - I'll drop the Apache/fcgi option off my list, get lighttpd/fcgi
running on port 80, and evaluate the apache proxy option for future use.

>     Feel free to contact me off list if you run into trouble or want
> some good lighttpd.conf files for your apps and i will do my best to
> help you get off the ground. Once you get a good install once you  will
> be able to repeat it easily on other machines.

Thank you very much

   Justin
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 21:25
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Blair Zajac wrote:
>
Thanks. For this installation of Rails, I'm going to build from source
as Ezra advised, but I will take a look at Fink out of more general
interest. I've been a bit puzzled as to why people are seeming to prefer
DarwinPorts these days, when Fink installs binaries.

regards

    Justin
27c170f482104299af279902be0a9c26?d=identicon&s=25 trevor (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 21:29
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On 2-Dec-05, at 12:15 PM, Justin Forder wrote:

> I've backed up my Mac Mini and taken the "Erase and Install" option
> on the Tiger upgrade DVD - once that's complete I'll install Xcode
> and then proceed through your instructions.
>

Hey Justin,

careful with that - I did the same thing and found that my bundled
iLife software was no-longer available.  My panther install media
wouldn't install the bundled tools onto the fresh Tiger install.  I
tried (some third-party package unpacking/installing tool that I
can't remember the name of) but it didn't help.

In the end I did a fresh panther install immediately followed by a
tiger simple upgrade (no archive).

HTH,
Trevor
27c57aaa4bda5ac8b0593659573b522f?d=identicon&s=25 blair (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 21:41
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Justin Forder wrote:
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blair
>>
>
> Thanks. For this installation of Rails, I'm going to build from source
> as Ezra advised, but I will take a look at Fink out of more general
> interest. I've been a bit puzzled as to why people are seeming to prefer
> DarwinPorts these days, when Fink installs binaries.

Well, Fink didn't support Ruby on Rails until I put in a large amount of
effort
into bring it up to date, including Ruby (up from 1.8.1), rubygems,
sqlite and
sqlite3.  So I believe that the popularity of DarwinPorts is due to its
earlier
support of Rails.

BTW, currently, there aren't binaries available for Fink, as the Fink
team
hasn't done a binary release for a while.  So, I'm thinking of having
the debs I
compile publicly available so that people can use them via
/sw/etc/apt/sources.list.

Regards,
Blair

--
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<blair@orcaware.com>
Subversion and Orca training and consulting
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Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-02 21:53
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Trevor Squires wrote:
> careful with that - I did the same thing and found that my bundled
> iLife software was no-longer available.  My panther install media
> wouldn't install the bundled tools onto the fresh Tiger install.  I
> tried (some third-party package unpacking/installing tool that I  can't
> remember the name of) but it didn't help.
>
> In the end I did a fresh panther install immediately followed by a
> tiger simple upgrade (no archive).
>
> HTH,
> Trevor

Trevor - thanks! It's nice to have so many people watching over me :-)
You are right - I've lost the iLife apps.

For now, I'll press on with  the Xcode and Rails installs on a rather
bare Tiger, but once I'm confident with the Rails on OS X setup I'll
back up everything to do with Rails, gems, and lighttpd etc, do the
Panther install and Tiger upgrade as you recommend, and then restore
Rails etc.

regards

   Justin
Ccaa63b09f5168501b194266b9a1e7cc?d=identicon&s=25 scott (Guest)
on 2005-12-03 04:40
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On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Justin Forder wrote:

>
> and supports what you have heard (but gives a fix):
>
> <quote>
> With 10.4.3 and Xcode 2.2 (November 10, 2005), several file
> locations have changed. Native extensions won?t build; you can fix
> this by adding symlinks to the old locations.
> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/universal-darwin8.0/* /usr/lib/ruby/
> 1.8/powerpc-darwin8.0
> </quote>

That was my experience, too. I didn't dig into very far, though -- I
had Rails working on two other Macs with Tiger + rbfixconfig, so I
just uninstalled the 2.2 tools and replaced them with developer tools
package on the Tiger CD.

Semi-related: I'd vote for compiling Ruby yourself over trying to
patch Apple's version or Darwin Ports or Fink. (Be careful that your
PATH points to the new install, of course). Both Fink and Darwin
Ports are great for *nix libraries that you may want. GTK for Ruby-
Gnome2, say. But they're a bit much if all you need is the typical
Rails stack.

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Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-03 09:17
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Scott Willson wrote:
>> This note has recently been added to
>> 1.8/powerpc-darwin8.0
> points to the new install, of course). Both Fink and Darwin  Ports are
> great for *nix libraries that you may want. GTK for Ruby- Gnome2, say.
> But they're a bit much if all you need is the typical  Rails stack.

Thanks - I have come round to the same point of view.

Ryan Raaum emailed me about how it's done in Locomotive, which is
largely based on DarwinPorts, and advised me to just put the new install
at the front of the PATH rather than doing anything to clobber Apple's
version.

Interestingly, during the life of this thread (on 1st December) Dan
Benjamin, the author of the Hivelogic Narrative, has added specific and
up to date instructions for building and installing Ruby, Rails,
Lighttpd, FastCGI and MySQL on Tiger:

http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rail...

I found that when I ran into a problem following Ezra's instructions,
and wanted to cross-check. It supersedes Dan's earlier guidance on
setting up Ruby and Rails for FastCGI under Apache.

I started with Xcode 2.0, as supplied with Tiger. Dan says Xcode 2.1 is
preferable, so I downloaded that during the night, and have been
retracing my steps (and seeing that the same problems occur).

Will post a full account later.

regards

   Justin
B9a732fc30c32098347a0177c75ee27b?d=identicon&s=25 jeroen (Guest)
on 2005-12-03 16:06
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Justin Forder wrote:
>> Hey Justin,
>> HTH,
>> Trevor
>
>
> Trevor - thanks! It's nice to have so many people watching over me :-)
> You are right - I've lost the iLife apps.

You can also insert the panther 10.3 CD that came with your Mini and
select "Install Bundled Software only" - that way you won't need to
install 10.3 first.

Jeroen
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-03 17:28
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Jeroen Houben wrote:
>>>>
>>> tiger simple upgrade (no archive).
> You can also insert the panther 10.3 CD that came with your Mini and
> select "Install Bundled Software only" - that way you won't need to
> install 10.3 first.

That's great... I presumably need to restart to do that?
(I'm testing my new install now... must break to go shopping.. will post
details later)

regards

    Justin
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-04 22:59
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Just so that there's at least one happy ending on this extended thread,
I'd like to report that I now have Readline, Ruby, Rubygems, Rails,
PCRE, Lighttpd, FastCGI with the Ruby FastCGI bindings, and MySQL with
the Ruby MYSQL native bindings, all installed and running on a clean
reinstallation of Tiger, with current Apple software updates and Xcode
2.1. (Also OSXvnc, which let me drive this from a wireless laptop, and
TextMate.)

Thanks to Ezra for motivating to start again on all this, with his
advice on the list and at

    http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack

Thanks to Ryan Raaum, who emailed me the recipe he uses for building the
contents of Locomotive, and continued to give advice by email.

Thanks to Dan Benjamin, the narrator of the HiveLogic Narrative, who has
  just published full and up to date guidance on building the stack I
outlined above, at
   http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rail...

I found this when I ran into a couple of problems following Ezra's
instructions (I've emailed Ezra the details - principally, it looks as
if Ezra's instructions expect readline and OpenSSL to be installed
already).

Dan's instructions overlap very substantially with Ezra's, and I ended
up following them (I flagged some minor points to Dan, and he has
updated the article already). I got everything built and installed
yesterday, ready to test.

This morning it took very little time to show Rails running on Lighttpd,
and then to include MySQL in the combination (this is a "smoke test"
based on Ryan's Locomotive movie,

   http://locomotive.sourceforge.net/images/locomotiv...

which gives a nice Rails demo in 3 minutes 48 seconds... here I'm doing
the bare minimum to show that all the bits are present and talking to
one another):

(New shell, in home directory)
$ mkdir rails
$ cd rails
$ rails test
$ cd test
$ mate .
(this opens TextMate on the whole Rails project)

(In a separate shell, in home directory)
$ cd rails/test
$ script/server
(the output tells me that lighttpd is being used, and doing ps -ax in
another shell shows me that there's a process running ruby, executing
public/dispatch.fcgi)

Browse
   http://localhost:3000/
and see the Congratulations page.

(Back in the first shell)
$ script/generate controller say hello

Browse http://localhost:3000/say/hello

OK - this shows Lighttpd and Rails are working.
Looks at the logs - all looks fine.

Create db/monkeys.sql :

drop table if exists monkeys;

create table monkeys (
	id int not null auto_increment primary key,
	name varchar (100) not null
);

$ /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql test -u root -p < db/monkeys.sql

(use the given empty test database...
  TODO: add /usr/local/mysql/bin to my PATH
        give root a password
        create another user for rails apps)

In config/database.yml :

development:
   adapter: mysql
   database: test
   username: root
   password:
   socket: /tmp/mysql.sock

Restart the server (Ctrl-C and script/server in the other shell)

$ script/generate scaffold Monkey

(server shell shows:
   Monkey Columns (0.014769)   SHOW FIELDS FROM monkeys
...see the same in development.log)

Browse http://localhost:3000/monkeys/list

It all works!

Thanks also to Jeroen Houben, for starting the thread and for giving
advice about reinstalling the iLife apps on my clean install of the
Tiger upgrade (and thanks to Trevor Squires for warning me I would be
losing them). Finally, thanks to all the other posters for giving advice
about other options.

   Justin
Eea7ad39737b0dbf3de38874e0a6c7d8?d=identicon&s=25 justin (Guest)
on 2005-12-05 03:30
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Justin Forder wrote:

> Jeroen Houben wrote:
>
[regarding getting the iLife apps back after a clean install of Tiger
from an original-version Mac Mini Tiger upgrade DVD]
>>
>> You can also insert the panther 10.3 CD that came with your Mini and
>> select "Install Bundled Software only" - that way you won't need to
>> install 10.3 first.
>
> That's great... I presumably need to restart to do that?

No restart was needed (strictly in line with what Jeroen wrote).

   Justin
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