Forum: RSpec Re: exemplary way to show a list is sorted?

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5d38ab152e1e3e219512a9859fcd93af?d=identicon&s=25 David Chelimsky (Guest)
on 2009-02-12 18:14
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:25 AM, James Byrne <>
> interpretation corrected.  If this had been raised in person and not
> via
> email I venture that my question would have been answered directly and
> without rancor.
> The initial response that I received from Mr. Dennis was uncalled for.

I have to take some responsibility for his initial response. Zach and
I were chatting in IRC when I read your initial comment, to which I
had a very strong and negative reaction. He was really just trying to
take the heat off me at the moment.

If you take away the reactionary nature of it, however, he did have
good points about the nature of open source, as did Nick Hoffman in
this thread.

> to
> go through the convulsions that will accompany the move to 1.9/2.x in
> the near future.  I expect that in consequence a vast amount of
> software
> presently in use will either have to be revised extensively or
> abandoned. I am not dogmatic about backwards compatibly.  On the other
> hand, I also have first hand experience with OSS projects where
> backwards compatibility appeared inconsequential.

I hope you understand now that this is not the case with rspec.

> Instead of advising people who raise issues like this to go fork their
> own project, perhaps a brief statement as to why the action is deemed
> appropriate might be better.  Compare the response from Mr. Dennis to
> that from Mr. Chelimsky.

Again, I had the benefit of time to step back and try to be
constructive. Zach's response was reactionary, but he was channeling
my reaction.

In accepting reappnsibility for this, btw, I'm not trying to dilute
it. I still feel that there were some insults thrown at me, and I'm
grateful to Zach and Pat for coming to my defense.

I also agree that this would all have been much smaller face to face,
with pints of beer in our hands.

> You may now have the last word.

I think we've all said our piece at this point and would love to move

Are you clear now about the particular change that started this whole

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