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B4107d47b90c3ac3bcbe7e0264f4d8f7?d=identicon&s=25 Will Dresh (toymachine)
on 2009-01-27 21:25
Hello,

I think this problem will be best explained by simply showing you the
code first..
[code]class ConfigSettings
  def initiliaze
    puts 'initializing ConfigSettings'
  end
end

class Dog
  def initialize
    puts 'initiliazing Dog'
  end
end

dog = Dog.new
settings = ConfigSettings.new[/code]
I would, of course, expect this to result in two prints to stdout:
"initializing Dog" and "initializing ConfigSettings". However, when I
run this program, "initializing ConfigSettings" is never output.

What in the world is going on?
C40020a47c6b625af6422b5b1302abaf?d=identicon&s=25 Stefano Crocco (crocco)
on 2009-01-27 21:28
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Alle martedì 27 gennaio 2009, Will Dresh ha scritto:
> initiliaze

Look closer at this.

Stefano
63529e6fbb35dde336d471b569b84d87?d=identicon&s=25 Rodrigo Bermejo (rbermejo)
on 2009-01-27 21:37
Stefano Crocco wrote:
> Alle martedì 27 gennaio 2009, Will Dresh ha scritto:
>> initiliaze
>
> Look closer at this.
>
> Stefano

I've come across into this mistake several times.
For non English-speakers I think this is the hardest key word ruby has.
I think this keyword could be replaced for something easier to spell.

Does anyone knows any planned change in this regard /?

Ruby.wishlist+=1

Novody is perfect.
-r.
D15a45a973443d4562051eb675b60474?d=identicon&s=25 Tom Cloyd (Guest)
on 2009-01-27 22:09
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Rodrigo Bermejo wrote:
>
>
Actually, English isn't all that easy for us English speakers either. If
we're going to replace this keyword, why not clean house and replace the
whole English language? Ever try to spell anything in English? The only
thing worse I know is French. Personally, I very much prefer Spanish,
but what do I know?

Sounds like a great way to start a war...!

t.

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Aafa8848c4b764f080b1b31a51eab73d?d=identicon&s=25 Phlip (Guest)
on 2009-01-27 22:20
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>>>> initiliaze

>>> Look closer at this.

Thank God the Brits have not foisted their phonetically incorrect
'initialise'
on us!

Writing initialize too much is a design smell.

I suspect one could rename it with class Object; alias initialize
embiggen ;
end, or similar.
703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 03:09
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@comcast.net>
wrote:
This is really something ugly, biting me very often. Actually I
finished to define initialize as a keyword in my ruby mode on vim. And
if I type
def initalize ( my favorite misspelling ;) and it is not highlighted I
get warned immediately (this word is worse than initialize actually).

Hopefully this idea helps some folk.

R.
BTW. English is impossible to write, French is impossible to
pronounce. Possiamo parlare italiano? (Well actually the logical
consequence would be to use Esperanto, but that is ***ugly***.
F065301eb65a5d0da8edcb8de9d5e28e?d=identicon&s=25 Tim Greer (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 03:35
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Rodrigo Bermejo wrote:

> -r.
I don't suspect there are many languages that would create aliases by
default in an effort to prevent typos, but you could probably create
your own.  I'd prefer no one forced that logic on me, just in case I
want to use a variable that's closely named like a reserved
word/function, only to find out that it's now a reserved word.
Ede2aa10c6462f1d825143879be59e38?d=identicon&s=25 Charles Oliver Nutter (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 06:10
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Rodrigo Bermejo wrote:
>
> Does anyone knows any planned change in this regard /?
>
> Ruby.wishlist+=1

Sure, how about we name it __init__

- Charlie
B09f4659460545e38ece34ddd0d96b46?d=identicon&s=25 Yaser Sulaiman (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 08:35
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Robert Dober
<robert.dober@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@comcast.net> wrote:
> This is really something ugly, biting me very often. Actually I
> finished to define initialize as a keyword in my ruby mode on vim. And
> if I type
> def initalize ( my favorite misspelling ;) and it is not highlighted I
> get warned immediately (this word is worse than initialize actually).
>
> Hopefully this idea helps some folk.
>

Nice.

I use gedit with the snippets[1] plugin. I set up a "defi" tap trigger
so
that whenever I write "defi" and hit Tab, "def initialize end" will be
inserted automatically. This way, I don't have to worry about
misspelling
"initialize" - which I did while writing this response! Can't live
without a
spell checker! :)

Regards,
Yaser

[1]: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins/Snippets
Ae16cb4f6d78e485b04ce1e821592ae5?d=identicon&s=25 Martin DeMello (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 09:34
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> initiliaze
>
>>>> Look closer at this.
>
> Thank God the Brits have not foisted their phonetically incorrect
> 'initialise' on us!

I must admit, I did that one a lot when I was learning Ruby. `init`
would be nice :)

martin
703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 10:27
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>
That seems a good idea too. I guess it is important to let each tool
do its work. Editors are here to help us with spelling, alias_method
is not.
+1 for Charlie's idea however ;).
R.
Ce521842cff87983fa0ab297b1d9317b?d=identicon&s=25 Tsunami Scripter (tsunami)
on 2009-01-28 11:18
I think Charles was being ironic , making fun of the python guys . It's
enough that perl copied the python object model ( and Larry regrets that
even today ) ... let's not do the same mistake again .
703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2009-01-28 13:37
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And I felt actually bad, adding the smiley, just to discover it was
not even enough.

I do not think that Perl copied Python's object model. When I talked
to Larry last time he said that he had copied Ruby's object model. The
last sentence is true, believe me.

Cheers
Robert
63529e6fbb35dde336d471b569b84d87?d=identicon&s=25 Rodrigo Bermejo (rbermejo)
on 2009-01-28 18:00
Robert Dober wrote:
> And I felt actually bad, adding the smiley, just to discover it was
> not even enough.
>
> I do not think that Perl copied Python's object model. When I talked
> to Larry last time he said that he had copied Ruby's object model. The
> last sentence is true, believe me.
>
> Cheers
> Robert

def new ...would be the "least surprise way" of doing it.
But I suspect there should be a  good reason for not doing that.

Would be cool to have some kind of magic file where you could alias the
ruby key words (maybe able to recompile the interpreter with these new
alias) to any word/language you want.

define inicializando
  pon "giiaaacc"
final



-r.
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