Hello, I think this problem will be best explained by simply showing you the code first.. [code]class ConfigSettings def initiliaze puts 'initializing ConfigSettings' end end class Dog def initialize puts 'initiliazing Dog' end end dog = Dog.new settings = ConfigSettings.new[/code] I would, of course, expect this to result in two prints to stdout: "initializing Dog" and "initializing ConfigSettings". However, when I run this program, "initializing ConfigSettings" is never output. What in the world is going on?
on 2009-01-27 21:25
on 2009-01-27 21:28
Alle martedÃ¬ 27 gennaio 2009, Will Dresh ha scritto: > initiliaze Look closer at this. Stefano
on 2009-01-27 21:37
Stefano Crocco wrote: > Alle martedÃ¬ 27 gennaio 2009, Will Dresh ha scritto: >> initiliaze > > Look closer at this. > > Stefano I've come across into this mistake several times. For non English-speakers I think this is the hardest key word ruby has. I think this keyword could be replaced for something easier to spell. Does anyone knows any planned change in this regard /? Ruby.wishlist+=1 Novody is perfect. -r.
on 2009-01-27 22:09
Rodrigo Bermejo wrote: > > Actually, English isn't all that easy for us English speakers either. If we're going to replace this keyword, why not clean house and replace the whole English language? Ever try to spell anything in English? The only thing worse I know is French. Personally, I very much prefer Spanish, but what do I know? Sounds like a great way to start a war...! t. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA, LMHC - Private practice Psychotherapist Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226 << email@example.com >> (email) << TomCloyd.com >> (website) << sleightmind.wordpress.com >> (mental health weblog) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
on 2009-01-27 22:20
>>>> initiliaze >>> Look closer at this. Thank God the Brits have not foisted their phonetically incorrect 'initialise' on us! Writing initialize too much is a design smell. I suspect one could rename it with class Object; alias initialize embiggen ; end, or similar.
on 2009-01-28 03:09
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Tom Cloyd <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: This is really something ugly, biting me very often. Actually I finished to define initialize as a keyword in my ruby mode on vim. And if I type def initalize ( my favorite misspelling ;) and it is not highlighted I get warned immediately (this word is worse than initialize actually). Hopefully this idea helps some folk. R. BTW. English is impossible to write, French is impossible to pronounce. Possiamo parlare italiano? (Well actually the logical consequence would be to use Esperanto, but that is ***ugly***.
on 2009-01-28 03:35
Rodrigo Bermejo wrote: > -r. I don't suspect there are many languages that would create aliases by default in an effort to prevent typos, but you could probably create your own. I'd prefer no one forced that logic on me, just in case I want to use a variable that's closely named like a reserved word/function, only to find out that it's now a reserved word.
on 2009-01-28 06:10
Rodrigo Bermejo wrote: > > Does anyone knows any planned change in this regard /? > > Ruby.wishlist+=1 Sure, how about we name it __init__ - Charlie
on 2009-01-28 08:35
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Robert Dober <email@example.com>wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Tom Cloyd <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > This is really something ugly, biting me very often. Actually I > finished to define initialize as a keyword in my ruby mode on vim. And > if I type > def initalize ( my favorite misspelling ;) and it is not highlighted I > get warned immediately (this word is worse than initialize actually). > > Hopefully this idea helps some folk. > Nice. I use gedit with the snippets plugin. I set up a "defi" tap trigger so that whenever I write "defi" and hit Tab, "def initialize end" will be inserted automatically. This way, I don't have to worry about misspelling "initialize" - which I did while writing this response! Can't live without a spell checker! :) Regards, Yaser : http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins/Snippets
on 2009-01-28 09:34
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Phlip <email@example.com> wrote: >>>>> initiliaze > >>>> Look closer at this. > > Thank God the Brits have not foisted their phonetically incorrect > 'initialise' on us! I must admit, I did that one a lot when I was learning Ruby. `init` would be nice :) martin
on 2009-01-28 10:27
> That seems a good idea too. I guess it is important to let each tool do its work. Editors are here to help us with spelling, alias_method is not. +1 for Charlie's idea however ;). R.
on 2009-01-28 11:18
I think Charles was being ironic , making fun of the python guys . It's enough that perl copied the python object model ( and Larry regrets that even today ) ... let's not do the same mistake again .
on 2009-01-28 13:37
And I felt actually bad, adding the smiley, just to discover it was not even enough. I do not think that Perl copied Python's object model. When I talked to Larry last time he said that he had copied Ruby's object model. The last sentence is true, believe me. Cheers Robert
on 2009-01-28 18:00
Robert Dober wrote: > And I felt actually bad, adding the smiley, just to discover it was > not even enough. > > I do not think that Perl copied Python's object model. When I talked > to Larry last time he said that he had copied Ruby's object model. The > last sentence is true, believe me. > > Cheers > Robert def new ...would be the "least surprise way" of doing it. But I suspect there should be a good reason for not doing that. Would be cool to have some kind of magic file where you could alias the ruby key words (maybe able to recompile the interpreter with these new alias) to any word/language you want. define inicializando pon "giiaaacc" final -r.