Forum: Ruby on Rails Future of Ruby as well as Rails

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661ae6e97d0e16c2af2aaf7d197e8387?d=identicon&s=25 Sijo k g (sijo)
on 2008-10-11 10:42
Hi
    while searching through the old posts I got this very old post..

http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/68101
Since all its answers are old I am posting my concern as seperate

But may I ask the source question again?
I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby's Future?
This is just to know only..I am from India...Why I am asking this is in
India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont
know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by
big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP? So may
I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear
answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like
to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market

Thanks in advance
Sijo
915c75d80fe715ffe9772edd9c6a83d7?d=identicon&s=25 bramu.ss@gmail.com (Guest)
on 2008-10-11 11:33
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I will agree with you. There are few job opening for Ruby/Rails in
india. At the same time there are very few professionals in india who
know Rails.

You need not think about future you do your best and try to become
master in which ever you want. Surely you will get more than what you
are expecting..

Thanks,
Ramu.
28d158289fa32605ad18a3cc7ed0ecb8?d=identicon&s=25 Hélio Rocha (Guest)
on 2008-10-11 12:50
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If everyone that "loves" ruby stand for it in the projects where it fits
ruby prevails :)
In my case I use C# and Java on my daily job and PHP and RoR on my
freelance
projects. But I've showed RoR to boss, he tryed and now he's aiming for
some
intranets in rails :)

As every thing in life, stand for it!

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Sijo Kg
59528506e6297141161afcde91d677c9?d=identicon&s=25 Nicolai Reuschling (codeblogger)
on 2008-10-11 16:01
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> So may I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear
> answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like
> to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market
>

And while you're at it (looking into your crystal balls) tell me next
week's
lottery numbers...
247cd3d37084a3d6794076207bd9fbd7?d=identicon&s=25 Bobnation (Guest)
on 2008-10-11 18:59
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I think the future is bright ... but I'm an idealist. :)
9bb51d32191ba06591773be7fed21b3d?d=identicon&s=25 Oldtimer (Guest)
on 2008-10-12 13:08
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hi,

> I expect a clear answer .

first - i understand the reaction of Codeblogger...

totally...  ;-)

second - i (also totally) agree with Bobnation and especially with
Helio Rocha

> Why I am asking this is in
> India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont
> know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by
> big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category. compare to Java and PHP?

about that, i guess, clear answers are possible - what else do you
expect from "big companies"? They are like dinosaurs - heavy and slow

think of the beginning of Java or PHP, think of the late nineties,
when you try to compare it with Ruby or Rails 2008. Look at the pace
with which Java/PHP have entered the market

Rails entered history in 2004 - just four years and it already is ante
portas

i am a database programmer (some friends think, that the debugger is
my favorite GUI ;-) ) - and i use Rails, because you can combine
business and web so easily. Add to this SOA - and you may see, why my
bet is on Rails

btw: my bet is also that you will not have to wait for "job postings
of big IT companies" until 2018 - think of the projects about Rails of
IBM, Microsoft, SAP...

alas - no clear answer, just bets ;-)
Be5aef0bfddf0cc1f68ce8bc2f72989d?d=identicon&s=25 poecide@gmail.com (Guest)
on 2008-10-13 16:03
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For what it's worth, the fact that Ruby does not yet rule the world is
counted as a reason against it's adoption. Big companies want to know
they can just hire any old programmer and get production. They don't
want to have to search for a specialist. Here's an example:

At my last job, the boss was a very smart guy who was very open to new
things. (Not something you find in a lot of managers). He gave me a
project that I implemented in Rails. The boss left the company. A few
weeks later, so did I (because somebody offered me a 50% raise to do
Rails all day long). At that point, the Rails project I had been
working on was in beta testing.

The only thing the new boss knew about Rails was that it wasn't PHP
and he couldn't understand it. The programmer who took over the
project from me didn't know Rails or even Ruby. He struggled for a
while, then gave up and re-wrote the application logic in PHP. There
were at least 2 other people in the office who could deal with PHP and
the boss was happy to have it done in something that would not depend
on one particular person.

In a year or two, when that programmer is at another job and Rails
comes up again, he'll have already had some exposure and will be more
receptive. At that point, he'll learn to love it. That's the way
adoption works. Rails is a great platform with a great future. The
best is yet to come.
530eeb0c78fd91f7acf4fc228c4ff4d9?d=identicon&s=25 the69geeks (Guest)
on 2008-10-14 11:18
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The future will be really bright if you look @ WEB2.0 hype.
RoR and W2.0 are very well gelled and hence till WEB3.0 comes up with
a similar gel, RoR will rock!
For Biggis, since RoR is free, it can not generate as revenue as .net
(from client as well as from MS to promote it :-)))
So, it is like Linux, novell took it lot many years to understand why
RedHat is doing a Linux and SCO died before knowing it!

But what I think will really matter is not mindset, but Ruby should
not go by JAVA way; like creating 10 different ways of doing a same
thing and documenting each way in 10 different manner.
1b507a552850441a516948d488962d2e?d=identicon&s=25 Sniper Abandon (mokkai)
on 2008-10-14 14:17
Sijo Kg wrote:
> Hi
> I love Ruby - But how bright is Ruby's Future?
it is good for agile development
> This is just to know only..I am from India...

because indian companies are good followers(means they are not creaters)
and they won't beleive open sources also.
at nowdays rails is booming in UK ,US,etc.
after some 2+ years those indian companies will work in rails for agile
web development(They will simply follow from others).

> Why I am asking this is in
> India the big corporates using rails is very few atleast for now .dont
> know what will happen in future I am saying this of the job postings by
> big IT companies on Ruby/Rails category.

nowdays the number of companies who are working in rails is rapidly
increasing in india.

> compare to Java and PHP? So may
> I know the current status of Ruby as well as rails? I expect a clear
> answer ..I dont know what is happening in other countries .I would like
> to know the future of Ruby and Rails especially in the job market

i thing the job market ll be good after 3+ years in india

> Thanks in advance
> Sijo
F15fdc7cb2e911b3808837f2be244add?d=identicon&s=25 AD (Guest)
on 2008-10-14 20:28
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if you look at things like JRuby which allow easier transition into Java
corporate environments, I think this only  helps.
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