Forum: Ruby on Rails Namespaces for admin fucntionality, worth the effort?

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13d7a3ab12ec57e0d372d7115362cb91?d=identicon&s=25 comopasta Gr (comopasta)
on 2008-10-06 22:31
Hi,

I'm currently having the admin part of one of my apps accessible by pure
username and password + role management checking.

I was planning to add namespaces for it. Then I came accross this (a bit
old but still...):
http://glu.ttono.us/articles/2006/08/30/guide-thin...

"Putting Controllers in Namespaces

This is really more trouble than it’s worth. You run into all sorts of
crazy errors if you do this and you’ll be confused and frustrated.
You’ll then ask other people about it and they’ll either blow you off
for using namespaces with controllers or procede to get confused and
frustrated as well. Then you’ll say, “I with I had listened to Kevin and
Chris”. If you want /admin/some_controller as an URL that’s fine. Use
the routing that’s built into rails."

I've used namespaces for admin before and actually it can create
confusion. On the other hand using a common controller with some extra
is_admin? checks can be a bit ugly. I know it all depends on how
different the admin funcionality is.

But is there any opinions/experiences you could share on this issue?

Thanks.
2505b282d57c29be797dc35b245adb4c?d=identicon&s=25 Philip Hallstrom (Guest)
on 2008-10-07 00:07
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:31 PM, comopasta Gr wrote:

> http://glu.ttono.us/articles/2006/08/30/guide-thin...
> the routing that’s built into rails."
>
> I've used namespaces for admin before and actually it can create
> confusion. On the other hand using a common controller with some extra
> is_admin? checks can be a bit ugly. I know it all depends on how
> different the admin funcionality is.
>
> But is there any opinions/experiences you could share on this issue?

I've done it quite a few times... rails 1.1.6, 1.2.3, and several with
whatever is current 2.1.1 (?).  I haven't had any problems...

-philip
A05834e9b5954947eb0ba3b570c47d5e?d=identicon&s=25 Pratik Naik (pratik)
on 2008-10-07 01:57
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:31 PM, comopasta Gr
<rails-mailing-list@andreas-s.net> wrote:
> I'm currently having the admin part of one of my apps accessible by pure
> username and password + role management checking.
>
> I was planning to add namespaces for it. Then I came accross this (a bit
> old but still...):
> http://glu.ttono.us/articles/2006/08/30/guide-thin...

That article is very old. I'd recommend namespacing controllers for
something like admin panel. It has worked great for me.
--
Cheers!
- Pratik
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A82ba1167f4d4a8d1de63820e576a87f?d=identicon&s=25 Robby Russell (Guest)
on 2008-10-07 02:51
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Pratik <pratiknaik@gmail.com> wrote:
> That article is very old. I'd recommend namespacing controllers for
> something like admin panel. It has worked great for me.


Agreed. We use an /admin namespace on several of our really large
client projects. It works quite well.

The only issue that we've really run into is with namespaces and model
names. Some weird stuff can happen (especially within tests) if you
have a namespace of Admin and a model named Admin. We've since used
Administrator to as an appropriate model name to distinguish the two.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Robby

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81b61875e41eaa58887543635d556fca?d=identicon&s=25 Frederick Cheung (Guest)
on 2008-10-07 03:06
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On 7 Oct 2008, at 01:49, Robby Russell wrote:

>>> (a bit
> The only issue that we've really run into is with namespaces and model
> names. Some weird stuff can happen (especially within tests) if you
> have a namespace of Admin and a model named Admin. We've since used
> Administrator to as an appropriate model name to distinguish the two.
>
Might that be weird stuff like it trying to resolve a constant like
Admin::SettingsController by looking inside the Admin model class ?

I've got apps with /admin namespaced controllers on several apps.

Fred
36aef9956c6082f69622dd67e8da376f?d=identicon&s=25 Joshua Abbott (joshnabbott)
on 2008-10-07 18:24
I've never had any problems with using an admin namespace either. I
recommend doing it.

-- Josh
http://iammrjoshua.com

Frederick Cheung wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2008, at 01:49, Robby Russell wrote:
>
>>>> (a bit
>> The only issue that we've really run into is with namespaces and model
>> names. Some weird stuff can happen (especially within tests) if you
>> have a namespace of Admin and a model named Admin. We've since used
>> Administrator to as an appropriate model name to distinguish the two.
>>
> Might that be weird stuff like it trying to resolve a constant like
> Admin::SettingsController by looking inside the Admin model class ?
>
> I've got apps with /admin namespaced controllers on several apps.
>
> Fred
13d7a3ab12ec57e0d372d7115362cb91?d=identicon&s=25 comopasta Gr (comopasta)
on 2008-10-07 23:54
Hi,

Thanks for your comments. I decided to go for the admin namespace, I
need to have several controllers under it.

Already posted the first problem. The very first command actually :-P
Didn't even have time to get confused :-)

http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/167667

Cheers!
A93363196f047ab4a7c4dab02e90091d?d=identicon&s=25 glennswest (Guest)
on 2008-10-08 04:08
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Yes, I tend to break each major part of my app, into a namespace.
If its a "top" tab on my menu, its a namespace.
It make life so much easier. So yes, admin is almost always
in every app. Espesially when you start having dozens to hundreds of
controllers. Havent quite got to having a "model" in different
namespace yet
but got close.

On Oct 8, 5:54 am, comopasta Gr <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net>
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