Forum: Ruby EURUKO 2007

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C30abc7fb05175cab5d759900012884b?d=identicon&s=25 Stephan Kämper (Guest)
on 2007-07-28 01:52
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Hi all,

a couple of weeks back I already made an announcement about this
year's European Ruby Conference (EURUKO).

Currently it's planned for the weekend on the 3rd and 4th of
November, which very unfortunately clashes nearly perfectly with
RubyConf in in Charlotte, North Carolina (http://rubyconf.org/).
Turns that it hard to find a date matching every constraint:
Shouldn't clash with either of: RailsConf(s), local public holidays,
other conferences but should also be considerably earlier than
Christmas (which rules out December)...

When the decision was made about the date I was entirely unaware of
the RubyConf date. Sure enough: The planning for EURUKO 2008 needs to
start a lot earlier.

However we'd be extremely happy to get some more feedback on what
those who plan to come would like to see.
The general set up is like this:

* We're keeping the conference fee as low as possible -
   last year it was just 20 Euro.
* The planning of the talks was quite dynamic, some folks who
   came as 'attendant-only' gave presentations later the same day,
* It's *your* conference, so if you like to just contribute.

So here's another request for comments - to my e-mail, one of the
blog posts over at phvalues.wordpress.com or just here.

What topics would you see covered by the presentations?
Would you attend if the date wouldn't clash with RubyConf?
   And if so, what other date would you propose.
Do you plan to come to this year's EURUKO?

Cheers

Stephan
62002cee15efcf4628cd7efc19425a07?d=identicon&s=25 Tim Becker (Guest)
on 2007-07-29 13:57
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Soliciting feedback seems to be the major problem at the moment ;) The
ruby mailing lists (ruby-talk in particular) are the only real ruby
resource I typically monitor, so I'm not sure what other lists the
event is being published on. For publicity, we should probably spam at
least all the German language Ruby/RoR resources and, judging by last
years participants, all the UK ones as well. As soon as the date and
location are fixed, also have some press releases to the relevant
German press (heise, anything else?)

My estimate would be that attendance would be rougly similar to last
years maybe +10%. If we have some sort of rudimentary registration, we
could at least make sure whatever location is picked won't get
flooded.

Are you currently the only person  organising? Is there a mailing list
or something similar that could be used for the people who are
interested in helping to interact and coordinate? I only collected
about two or three addresses of people I met last year, but it might
be a good idea to contact as many of last years attendants as possible
directly.

Have you considered using the barcamp infrastructure
(http://barcamp.org/) to organize? The type of conference this will be
is sufficiently similar, the ruby is interesting to the barcamp crowd
and showing a presence there would generate some publicity in and of
itself.

The wiki used last year is still functional (if ugly), but it's also
linked to from a lot of places and doesn't mention this year's
conference at all.

Since I'm in Cologne, I won't be much use to organize anything in
Munich directly, but I'd be willing to:

- organize nametags (as offered last year)
- create/host a mailing list
- help organize structure a wiki (or some other mode of interaction
for the organizers)
- give a presenation
- try to collect related forums that we could use for announcements
- send off a quick note to the people who's addresses I collected last
year
- throw around ideas
- more or less anything someone else thinks of that would be feasible
to manage from Cologne :)

Thanks very much for taking the initiative to organise this year's
Euroko!

Cheers,
   -tim
F53b05cdbdf561cfe141f69b421244f3?d=identicon&s=25 unknown (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 04:50
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Hi --

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Stephan Kämper wrote:

> should also be considerably earlier than Christmas (which rules out
> December)...

OK... but this will be the second RubyConf clash in three years.
Couldn't you rotate what it clashes with? :-)

I really do think that it's impossible nowadays to find completely
unconflicting stretches of time for Ruby events -- which is sort of
cool, because it reflects how much activity there is.  I do hope to
make it to another EuRuKo some day, though.


David
Ff9e18f0699bf079f1fc91c8d4506438?d=identicon&s=25 James Britt (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 05:32
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dblack@rubypal.com wrote:

> OK... but this will be the second RubyConf clash in three years.
> Couldn't you rotate what it clashes with? :-)
>
> I really do think that it's impossible nowadays to find completely
> unconflicting stretches of time for Ruby events -- which is sort of
> cool, because it reflects how much activity there is.  I do hope to
> make it to another EuRuKo some day, though.
>

Same here.

One suggestion: Make the schedule for Euruko 2008 and 2009 *today*.
Then it's  up to other conference planners to not conflict with you. :)

More self-centered suggestion; a request, really:  If you're having
Euruko in Munich (which, of course, you should), please try to hold it
earlier in the year when the weather is brighter/warmer.

The best bet I have for getting to Bavaria is to couple it with visiting
family and spending some time in the area, but the late fall/early
winter months really are not good for that.

I suspect this is true for others outside of Europe as well, for whom
getting there is enough of a personal expense that it is best fit in as
part of a vacation trip.


--
James Britt

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703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 10:42
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On 7/30/07, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:

> More self-centered suggestion; a request, really:  If you're having
> Euruko in Munich (which, of course, you should),
 Rome in mid October, nothing can beat that!!!

Ci vediamo ragazzi :)
6087a044557d6b59ab52e7dd20f94da8?d=identicon&s=25 Peña, Botp (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 10:44
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From: Robert Dober [mailto:robert.dober@gmail.com]
#  Rome in mid October, nothing can beat that!!!

Ruby in Rome, cool!
10c122532c00465b809dbf9dc35806a7?d=identicon&s=25 Paolo Negri (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 10:52
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Already in italy, October.

http://www.railstoitaly.org/

Paolo
10c122532c00465b809dbf9dc35806a7?d=identicon&s=25 Paolo Negri (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 11:08
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Sorry, related to this I was thinking maybe the two events could be
joined?

I'm not related in any way to the organisers nor I'm from Pisa, but
Pisa is really nice, quieter and easier to navigate than Rome, and it
has an airport.

In addition to this there's a big university  that maybe can offer
some spaces or support in some way the event.

Probably Pisa is probably more camping friendly than Rome can be.

Or maybe the euruko could be one week before the other event so who's
lucky enough can spend the week in Pisa (Firenze or Siena are really
near and can keep people entertained during the week).

thanks

Paolo
703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 12:04
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On 7/30/07, Paolo Negri <hungrylist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or maybe the euruko could be one week before the other event so who's
> lucky enough can spend the week in Pisa (Firenze or Siena are really
> near and can keep people entertained during the week).

And I know I am a terrible "campanilista" but for all who do not know
Lucca and have the opportunity to go to the conference do not miss
this amazing town...

If only I could go to the conference, hmm maybe...

Robert
C30abc7fb05175cab5d759900012884b?d=identicon&s=25 Stephan Kämper (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 21:18
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Am 30.07.2007 um 04:48 schrieb dblack@rubypal.com:

>
> OK... but this will be the second RubyConf clash in three years.
> Couldn't you rotate what it clashes with? :-)

Well, Dave, I think that should be possible.
It might even be possible to resolve the clash for this year - but
first of all we need to get some reasonable venue now.


> I really do think that it's impossible nowadays to find completely
> unconflicting stretches of time for Ruby events -- which is sort of
> cool, because it reflects how much activity there is.  I do hope to
> make it to another EuRuKo some day, though.

And we'd certainly would like to see you over here.

Cheers

Stephan
C30abc7fb05175cab5d759900012884b?d=identicon&s=25 Stephan Kämper (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 21:30
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Hi,

Am 30.07.2007 um 05:31 schrieb James Britt:

>
> One suggestion: Make the schedule for Euruko 2008 and 2009 *today*.
> Then it's  up to other conference planners to not conflict with
> you. :)

Well, we have already thought about that, too.
For now we'll need to get this one organised though.

> More self-centered suggestion; a request, really:
> If you're having Euruko in Munich (which, of course, you should),
> please try to hold it earlier in the year when the weather is
> brighter/warmer.

You're so right. :-)

> I suspect this is true for others outside of Europe as well, for whom
> getting there is enough of a personal expense that it is best fit in
> as part of a vacation trip.

And even inside Germany. :-)

Cheers

Stephan
Ff9e18f0699bf079f1fc91c8d4506438?d=identicon&s=25 James Britt (Guest)
on 2007-07-30 22:45
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Stephan Kämper wrote:

>
> And even inside Germany. :-)

At which point it becomes the dream vacation (an experience I hope to
repeat in the near future).


--
James Britt

"Every object obscures another object."
    - Luis Bunuel
7264fb16beeea92b89bb42023738259d?d=identicon&s=25 Christian Neukirchen (Guest)
on 2007-08-01 18:49
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Stephan Kämper <stephan.kaemper@mac.com> writes:

> Do you plan to come to this year's EURUKO?

I'll try very hard to come, but I can't tell 100%.

Of course willing to give a talk.  (Geez, and now hack something
interesting...)
Ff9e18f0699bf079f1fc91c8d4506438?d=identicon&s=25 James Britt (Guest)
on 2007-08-01 20:00
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Christian Neukirchen wrote:
> Stephan Kämper <stephan.kaemper@mac.com> writes:
>
>> Do you plan to come to this year's EURUKO?
>
> I'll try very hard to come, but I can't tell 100%.
>
> Of course willing to give a talk.  (Geez, and now hack something
> interesting...)

The rule is, first offer to talk, then figure out how to write the code
for the talk.


--
James Britt

"Design depends largely on constraints."
  - Charles Eames
703fbc991fd63e0e1db54dca9ea31b53?d=identicon&s=25 Robert Dober (Guest)
on 2007-08-01 21:07
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On 8/1/07, James Britt <james.britt@gmail.com> wrote:
> The rule is, first offer to talk, then figure out how to write the code
> for the talk.
>
I can talk, who can write the code?
Robert
C30abc7fb05175cab5d759900012884b?d=identicon&s=25 Stephan Kämper (Guest)
on 2007-09-11 22:07
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Hi all,

after a few weeks of struggling to find a location we finally found a
place. In fact we also found a new date.
Sorry for any inconveniences all this back and forth may have caused.

Euruko 2007 will be located in Vienna, Austia on Saturday & Sunday
10th and 11th November 2007.

As before this will also be announced at http://
phvalues.wordpress.com as well as the Euruko wiki (which we're using
this year, too). The wiki is at http://www.euruko.com

If you're planning to attend or to give a presentation, please use
the wiki to register and announce your presentation.

See you in Vienna - or may be in Berlin next week

Stephan
D71284e011fc1db85804d55515f7d5b8?d=identicon&s=25 Sven C. Koehler (Guest)
on 2007-09-12 00:59
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On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 04:06:14AM +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
> I can talk, who can write the code?

Something akin to Powerpoint Karaoke?

-S.
D71284e011fc1db85804d55515f7d5b8?d=identicon&s=25 Sven C. Koehler (Guest)
on 2007-09-12 01:00
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 05:07:07AM +0900, Stephan Kämper wrote:
> Euruko 2007 will be located in Vienna, Austia on Saturday & Sunday
> 10th and 11th November 2007.

Yay!  I am looking forward to seeing you all there! :-)

-S.
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