Newspaper

Greetings – I’m evaluating Rails-based approaches to publishing a
newspaper.

The difference with blog is that I’ll have to have many authors and
the front page which is more than a single column. I’ll need to have
several columns, and top and bottom pf the page, all fed from
different categories. So far most sites I’ve seen are like WordPress
– a single boring column of a single guy.

Are there Radiant sites doing complex layout with several authors, and
how do you manage that?

Cheers,
Alexy

On 3/26/07, Alexy K. [email protected] wrote:

So far most sites I’ve seen are like WordPress
– a single boring column of a single guy.

That is because far most sites are blogs, not because their CMS is
limited.

With Radiant, your layout can be as complex as you make it. You can have
as
many authors as you wish and render their names above/below the articles
appropriately.

This is how I render the “news” column (3 most recent entries) on one of
the
sites I manage:

Read more ...

So, this is a proof-of-concept that any “category” (simply a branch in
the
content tree) can be rendered wherever you need. The rest is all
information
architecture, design and project realization in HTML and CSS.

Cool. So that’s Radius, right?

Not to start any flames, but to compare – also came across Mephisto,
which uses Liquid for templates. Is Mephisto suitable for a newspaper
too, and how does it compare with Radiant?

Cheers,
Alexy

Alexy K. wrote:

Not to start any flames, but to compare – also came across Mephisto,
which uses Liquid for templates. Is Mephisto suitable for a newspaper
too, and how does it compare with Radiant?

Mephisto is a better blogging engine. Radiant is a better CMS. Both can
be used as blogging engines or content management systems, but they are
both focused mostly on one or the other.


John L.
http://wiseheartdesign.com

On 3/26/07, Alexy K. [email protected] wrote:

Not to start any flames, but to compare – also came across Mephisto,
which uses Liquid for templates. Is Mephisto suitable for a newspaper
too, and how does it compare with Radiant?

Content in Radiant is tree-based - all your pages are children of other
pages, with the exception of home page which is root. Therefore, you can
have rich content hierarchy organizing articles in branches, but you
can’t
publish the same page under more than one branch. You can explicitly
assign
templates to each article, or let them inherit the template from their
parent (default behavior). The killer feature (IMO) of Radiant is that
pages
can have multiple custom-named parts. There are also special types of
pages:
archive (adds blog-like dates to URLs), 404 not found, mailer … Some
of
them are distributed via extensions.

In Mephisto, things are more flat. Articles are organized in sections,
and
you can have a single article appear in multiple sections. You assign
layouts to sections. You can have blog-like dates in URLs (based on your
preference); sections can also have custom URLs. The killer features of
Mephisto are overview (who logged in last, when, what changed recently,
new
user comments), asset manager and theme manager. Articles in Mephisto
can
only have two parts: “extended” and main. Authors in Mephisto cannot for
some reason enter their full name to be displayed, just their usernames.

Radius is slightly better documented than Liquid - you can even open up
a
Radius reference straight in the admin interface. Liquid is more
beautiful
for people who don’t like XML-like templating languages. A recent
enhancement to Mephisto enabled designers to code not only in Liquid,
but in
RHTML, Erubis or Haml. Both Liquid and Radius prevent potential
malicious
attempts - designers can’t execute Rails code.

I agree with John that Mephisto is a better blog engine (comments
overview
and approval, Askimet integration, sections, theme manager) while
Radiant is
a better CMS (simpler interface, rich hierarchy, flexibility). Still,
there
are Mephisto sites that don’t look like blogs and Radiant sites that are
blogs.
It all comes down to your specific needs.

Here’s an example of a site with more complex layouts that we recently
released: www.grouptravelorganiser.com

It’s based off a quite extensively modified pre-mental radiant base, in
desperate need for a move to mental and having the modifications ported
over
to the extensions system but I think it demonstrates the potential for
more
than just a blog site.

Kevin

On 3/26/07, Alexy K. [email protected] wrote:

Are there Radiant sites doing complex layout with several authors, and
how do you manage that?

Cheers,
Alexy


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On 3/26/07, Mislav Marohniæ [email protected] wrote:

I agree with John that Mephisto is a better blog engine (comments overview
and approval, Askimet integration, sections, theme manager)

Does it mean Radiant as of now doesn’t have commenting engine? I
intend to have comments under each article, and in fact am considering
Slashcode and LiveJournal for the level of importance I attach to such
dialogue… Would Radiant be able to manage that with perhaps more
Rails plug-ins, or one would have to need an overhaul?

Cheers,
Alexy

Alexy K. wrote:

The difference with blog is that I’ll have to have many authors and
the front page which is more than a single column. I’ll need to have
several columns, and top and bottom pf the page, all fed from
different categories. So far most sites I’ve seen are like WordPress
– a single boring column of a single guy.

Radiant can present content in with any layout you like. Here’s an
example of a slightly more complex variation on the two column approach:

http://noblecall.org/


John L.
http://wiseheartdesign.com