# Would ROR be a good choice to build my site?

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**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [May 29, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081 "2009-05-29T05:45:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/1 "2009-05-29T05:45:43Z")

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Would ROR be a good choice to build my site?

Hi Gang,

I’m in the process of developing a social media-ish site built around  
WordPress and VBulletin forum. A site where a visitor has a username and  
password and their own “page” on the site where various site  
interactions take place. I need a CMS framework to tie them all together  
along with other features like multimedia, video uploading/severing/,  
news/articles/information as well as user/visitor created content ala/  
wiki’s. I’ll need a user-friendly backend to control the functionality.  
(aside from Wordpress and VBulletin’s existing backends)  
Would ROR be suited for this sort of development? I’m going to be hiring  
a developer very soon and would like to have some honest opinions from  
those that know the platforms best. My current direction has me leaning  
toward Joomla or Drupal but I’ve heard so much about ROR lately, I want  
to find out more about it and if it’s the best choice for my project.

I hope to hear some good opinions. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/2 "2009-05-29T06:11:21Z")

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Utilizing Wordpress & VBulletin together with Rails isn’t the best  
idea. It’s do-able but it’s the way Rails was intended to be used…  
so whoever does it will need to jump through hoops.

I’d recommend looking at Rails based alternatives. Beast & Rboard are  
open source projects for forums. On the blogging side, there isn’t  
anything as nice as Wordpress on Rails but you might look at Typo,  
Mephisto & BrowserCMS.

On the video uploading side, you’ve got Panda ([http://pandastream.com](http://pandastream.com))  
you could utilize to upload & process videos.

For the rest of the project, Rails would be a good fit, particularly  
since it sounds like you’ll mostly be doing CRUD operations (Create,  
Read, Update & Delete on records.)

Overall, my answer to your question is Yes. Rails is well suited for  
your app.

On May 28, 8:45 pm, Jack J. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/3 "2009-05-30T02:02:40Z")

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Maybe a little offtopic, but does anyone else wish there was a filter  
for this list?

Maybe something that would just bounce any posts with “hiring a  
developer” and social (media|network|video) in them? 🙂

Are there really VCs out there with sufficiently severe craniorectal  
inversion that they think they’re really going to make “the next  
Youtube+Facebook+Wikipedia+Twitter+Flickr”? I’d like to know, as I  
missed out on the great deals on HK chairs during the last bust…

–Matt J.

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/4 "2009-05-30T02:08:26Z")

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> –Matt J.

is a tad cranky!

You can’t write a filter like all that, the place would need a  
moderator.

Not sure why you put this here, the OP had a totally valid question…

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/5 "2009-05-30T13:33:13Z")

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Matt J. wrote:

> Are there really VCs out there with sufficiently severe craniorectal  
> inversion that they think they’re really going to make “the next  
> Youtube+Facebook+Wikipedia+Twitter+Flickr”? I’d like to know, as I  
> missed out on the great deals on HK chairs during the last bust…

Those openings are not about re-inventing those killer apps. That would  
be daft.

Those openings are about figuring out new ways to spam them!

–  
Phlip

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/6 "2009-06-01T01:17:39Z")

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Thanks for the information guys.

Since I’ll be integrating with VBulletin I’ll probably go with Drupal  
for this project. I am interested in Rails however and had I not needed  
to integrate VBulletin I probably would have chosen to build the entire  
thing from the ground up in Rails.

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/7 "2009-05-30T14:30:10Z")

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Jack J. wrote:

> Would ROR be a good choice to build my site?
> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> I’m in the process of developing a social media-ish site built around  
> WordPress and VBulletin forum. A site where a visitor has a username and  
> password and their own “page” on the site where various site  
> interactions take place. I need a CMS framework to tie them all together  
> along with other features like multimedia, video uploading/severing/,  
> news/articles/information as well as user/visitor created content ala/  
> wiki’s. I’ll need a user-friendly backend to control the functionality.  
> (aside from Wordpress and VBulletin’s existing backends)  
> Would ROR be suited for this sort of development? I’m going to be hiring  
> a developer very soon and would like to have some honest opinions from  
> those that know the platforms best. My current direction has me leaning  
> toward Joomla or Drupal but I’ve heard so much about ROR lately, I want  
> to find out more about it and if it’s the best choice for my project.
> 
> I hope to hear some good opinions. Thanks.

I’m new here, especially with rails - but understanding the MVC concepts  
I would distinctly say “no”. A CMS system tied around Vbulletin will  
not work with rails because vbulletin was never designed with MVC in  
mind. It would not mesh well with rails mainly because of the  
following:

1. It’s PHP and not MVC driven.
2. It utilizes hooks and plugins to modify code areas to your site  
(which would not be rails compatible).

You are better off going with a completely new rails project environment  
from scratch or if you must use vbulletin then go with a vbulletin based  
CMS like VBadvanced…

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**Author:** ![jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e68b1a/32.png) [@jackson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/would-ror-be-a-good-choice-to-build-my-site/169081/8 "2009-06-01T09:15:29Z")

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Just a thought, but it almost sounds like you’re just more interested  
in using an application framework, not sure why Rails-specific. \*\*  
Please don’t shoot the blasphemist \*\* but if you want to stick with  
PHP-based applications (like WordPress and Drupal, etc…) you might  
be better off at looking at PHP-based frameworks, like Django or  
CakePHP (or even mojave, yuck)… Again, just a thought. 🙂 Not trying  
to steer you away from using Rails, but if you hire a developer one  
way or the other (i.e. PHP vs. Rails) they are quite possibly going to  
need ramp-up time on the other. There are a lot of developers out  
there that are multi-faceted and seasoned enough to know both, but  
there are a lot MORE that know one or the other much better. So if  
your intent really is to hire “one” developer, you might just need to  
choose your battle: Go with PHP and find a PHP developer who will do  
it all, or try to learn Rails from ground-up, implement PHP-based  
applications, and try to find a Rails developer that knows enough PHP  
to do multi-system integration.

On May 31, 5:17 pm, Jack J. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)
